On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Someone wrote:

> I like .pri as a TLD for a private network.  I can't tell though if pri
> is a global TLD or not.  I suppose I could use my registered domain name
> instead of ending private addresses with pri.
> 

Not sure what you mean by 'global'. If you mean recognizable everywhere such as 
.com, .net or .us, I do not believe it to be a registered TLD. It's not listed 
by IANA as a valid TLD, which means you should never find it on the public 
internet. Basically, if it's not listed by IANA, it's not valid on the 
internet. Which means you could use .quimby as your internal TLD, and unless 
IANA adds it to the list, your good to go.

> As far as the this is a solution looking for a problem comment.  No.
> There is a desire in the world today to use the same name for 
> different web sites.

How would this work? There may be a desire, but I do not see how this would 
work except in the case of a split horizon DNS where internal hosts resolve one 
site and external hosts resolve a second site. 

>  What I am proposing is that a scope field
> be added to domain names as a separate text field.  You don't type
> this in, another mechanism allows choosing the correct scope indicator
> from a list.

How? Magic?

> The scopes would include local, Internet, USA, UK (England), 
> DE (Germany), etcetera.

So... based on geography? This is already done. For instance, many sites direct 
you automatically to the US version of their website when you appear to be 
coming from a US based IP address. Or to the Canadian version if you appear to 
be coming from Canada. This is done based on your IP address, which is not fool 
proof. 

Are you trying to reinvent .us, .uk, .jp, etc?

> 
> The point of scoping every Internet domain name is to permit the usage
> of any name on a local network and the usage of popular names more than
> once for different public web sites.

It sounds like you are trying to re-impliment something that is already 
available. I still don't see how using www.microsoft.com more than once can 
point to more than one entity. 

> 
> What I foresee is a drop down menu that starts out with a country code
> for every single country plus local and Internet (everywhere).

So, another level that I have to navigate through to get where I'm going? 

We already do this, in a couple of ways, one of which I pointed out above. 

>  The
> default is of course Internet where a list of choices becomes
> highlighted when there is a collision.  As far as claims that there is
> no problem, that is a bunch of bull.  No matter how many bits there
> are to represent computers on the Internet, there are only so many 
> names that people are going to want to type in.  Why should someone 
> in England be prevented from registering a robinson.org domain
> because someone elsewhere in the world already has?

Because that's the way it's set up right now? You can't have two hosts with the 
same name. (Canonical names aside.) 

You'd still need some host that arbitrates the scoping. SOMEONE would have to 
be in charge of the 'robinson.org' domain, and send the traffic on to the 
proper host. 

I see what you are saying, but I don't see how it could work without a major 
rewrite of DNS. You'd be talking about subnetting the world. You'd still have 
to have a way for the folks in the UK to get to the hosts in the US, or each 
entity in the US that also operates in the UK would have to have hosts there 
too, and then you run into the same issue. 

Besides. How granular do you want to take this? I'm sure there is more than one 
family in the Portland area with the last name Robinson (Let alone Johnson!). 
Why restrict the other families from robinson.org just because you happen to 
get it first?

At this time, the only way I see to implement what you are talking about is to 
share the domain. One person registers robinson.org, and then allows the other 
'family robinsons' to have DNS entries. 

>  There are
> numerous Robinson families in the world.  As I understand the current
> system, if I register robinson.org, that means that nobody else in the
> world can use robinson.org until I give the name up.  Don't tell me 
> that the global name space can't be expanded by use of another label. 
> 

Only through co-operation of the holder. There can only be one xerox.com on the 
internet. 

Russ
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