On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 20:02 -0700, Russell Johnson wrote:
> You are not writing about computer science Michael. You are writing about a 
> teachers, and your inability to learn. That is not the topic of this list.
> 
> Russell Johnson
> [email protected]

You are not the plug community Russell and I never said that Mark Jones
can't teach.  Nobody is incapable of learning where not everyone can
learn about computer science in general and Linux specifically the same
way.  Mark Jones in my opinion teaches in a way that demands a different
background than the average person who grows up in Oregon is likely to
have.  If it is hard to learn from Mark Jones because K-12 education
stinks in Oregon, that's not Mark Jones fault.  Stop being a bully
Russell, what does it give you quite frankly?

I hate plug-talk, I hate reading that Obama needs a new pair of shoes
when I voted against him.  I also hate that people will get into
atheistic rants on there among other things.  That this community
maintains the plug-talk list at all is in my opinion a sad state of
affairs.

Now it is widely known that Mark Jones is a computer science teacher.  
I am writing about computer science if I talk about him, that is
understood, and that is indeed germane to this list.  Is plug for the
discussion of Linux/Unix specifically and in more general terms 
computer science, or not?

If tomorrow there are no new computer scientists and the ones that
currently exist die off sooner than later, Linux will be severely
impacted.  Helping someone get through computer science and become
competent, especially someone who wants to work on Linux systems, is in
the long term interest of this community.  Linux would not exist at all
if Linus hadn't received help from others over the Internet.  Imagine
Linux coming to fruition if it had been Linus's private project
developed without the benefit of the GNU tools and without the Internet.
There would be no Linux as we know it in that kind of an environment.
I'm sure Linus is intelligent and quite skilled, but look at OS projects
like Syllable, ReactOS, and especially Visopsys which need more help.
ReactOS, 12+ years old, is not stable.  Linux is what, 21 years old?
Hasn't Linux been usable since 1993?  The difference between Linux and
ReactOS or Linux and Visopsys is that Linux became usable quickly.
Point is, that wouldn't have happened if Linux had been Linus's pet
project or private hobby.  Linus had to learn a lot to cobble together
the first stable Linux kernel.

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