On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 05:33:41AM -0700, Guy Letourneau wrote: > Because of the recent news (liberal fascism at Mozilla) > I am looking for alternatives to Firefox and Thunderbird. > > Any suggestions?
How about thinking it through? If you are looking for software untouched by liberal ideals, you probably won't find it outside of third world despotisms. For example, financier Peter Thiel is a hard core libertarian, a bête noir of most "liberals". Peter backed Paypal and Facebook, supports open source projects ... and is gay. Apple and M$ and Google donate money to gay rights causes, as do most large technology companies. This encourages their gay employees, and the much larger number of co-workers who respect their colleagues. A friend of mine is a lesbian, same-sex married, and ideological. That ideology impels her to work as a project lead for Mozilla in their Pearl office, when she could get many better-paying jobs in a hot software job market. Indeed, she helps manage Barcamp Portland, which is funded by sponsors recruiting among the attendees, making her possibly the most recruitable person in Portland. There are many like her working on Mozilla for idealistic reasons. That is how they keep going on a trickle of donations. A CEO who does not understand why his employees work there, or why people make donations to support him, is too stupid for the job, at least in this vital sense. If I was donating money to undermine YOUR marriage, would you keep working for me, or give money to me? You would forgive me for a six year old donation if I've had a sincere change of heart and worked to correct the harm I've done, but Mr. Eich hasn't done that, and most people are not as magnanimous as you are. I hope Mr. Eich finds a higher-paying job working for a company whose ideals match his own. That way, my ideological friends will know not to seek employment or send money there. Better yet, I hope he thinks through his ideals and corrects them occasionally, as we all should (including liberals). Wisdom is a process, not an endpoint. This probably belongs in plug-talk. It is not about how open source software works, but it IS about WHY it works. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom [email protected] _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
