On 11/27/2015 09:17 PM, wes wrote:
> if we can get on a video call,
> you can press buttons and I can observe the response

I do not comprehend how
a video-program installed on my computer
is going to enable you to observe
the response of my printer.

And i am inclined to believe
my printer's configurations are where
this main problem is centered.

> and give instructions for the next step in real time.

I presume that you are suggesting
that we construct a system where you can
just observe what is happening on my laptop-computer;
which would eliminate many variables
in our efforts to get the printer working.

But; in my experience;
video-conferencing is not as useful as is "virtual-networking".

Earlier, in this same general discussion;
John Bartley suggested that i try to convince some among you
to work with me thru
one of the "virtual-networking programs", as listed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software

I have worked with "SSH" before;
& i believe also with a program called "VNC" (or something similar).

SSH seems to be just a command-line interface,
while VNC & some of the others show remote desktops.

The later of these would seem to me to
provide everything that video-conferencing provides;
plus, you would have the ability to experiment directly,
as opposed to trying to explain me
how to type your commands correctly.

> it would save considerable driving time for either of us. I'm in tigard.

It would definately be good if we could figure a way
to get a handle on this problem remotely.

Tigard is quite a ways away,
yes, "considerable driving-time".

> google chat, facebook, iphone's facetime, etc.
> surely there is some overlap in
> our use of technology we can use to our advantage here.

I would really enjoy trying to solve this problem
thru ssh or some virtual-networking system.

I have a bit of a mental-block against
investing time/energy in large corporations proprietary technology.

But i am desperate;
& am quite open to suggestions from any of you.

Cz ...


> -wes




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> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Charles <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     On 11/27/2015 08:36 PM, wes wrote:
>
>         do you have skype
>
>
>     No, but i think i can get it installed.
>
>         or any other video calling capability?
>
>
>     I have experimented with other video-conferencing programs;
>     but none are installed on my present system.
>
>     And i do not comprehend how video-conferencing
>     might be of any use in solving my printer/networking problem.
>
>     I could just shoot a video from my cell-phone
>     of what happens with my printer efforts;
>     & then send that to you;
>     or post it on the server i have rented;
>     if that is how you are thinking that
>     video technology might assist with this problem.
>
>     And thanks for the prompt reply.
>
>     cz ...
>
>
>         -wes
>
>
>
>
>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>         On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Charles <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>              Wes;
>
>              Sorry for the delayed reply,
>              but i have been wrestling with my HP-Printer problem,
>              & taking careful notes from your video, here:
>
>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJvNbBbrsgU
>
>              For some strange reason,
>              my printer is not responding in
>              the same manner as the one in your video,
>              even tho they both appear to be the same model.
>
>              More specifically;
>              in your video near the 1:15 mark,
>              you are shown changing to "Yes" the settings
>              for: "CFG-Network=Yes".
>
>              I can get my machine to do that; ... but,
>              when i go on to the other settings in your video,
>              & i then come back to this setting,
>              it is some-how Changed back to "No".
>
>              I pushed "Select", & i got the "*" (star) sign next to it,
>              before i went on & then came back to see it changed to "No".
>
>              But that does not seem the worst problem.
>
>              I can get "CFG TCP/IP=Yes" properly set,
>              but then i press the 2 right-clicks shown in your video
>              to where "IP Byte" is supposed to be,
>              & it is not there.
>
>              And i see other good fellas here
>              have made some good suggestions also;
>              but i spent a lot of time/energy on attempting to follow
>              the instructions in your video;
>              & i dont know if you fellas comprehend how difficult &
>         frustrating
>              these sorts of problems can be for
>              newbies who do not have your skill-sets.
>
>              And this gets to broader-issues,
>              concerning our linux & open-source community.
>
>              I am an "end-user", with some modest economic-recourses;
>              & i can pay some of you to get on the phone with me
>              or to let me bring my machines & router to you,
>              or else pay you to drive out here to sandy,
>              & help me with these sorts of problems.
>
>              But ive been with-out a printer now for over 3-weeks.
>              I do social-justice related legal-work
>              which is all suffering because i cant print simple documents.
>
>              I am good at what i do;
>              but i cant be both a legal genius & a computer genius.
>              I simply do not possess that many brain-cells.
>
>              I really want to throw some money out here,
>              & at least pay some-one to get on the phone with me,
>              & help me cure this printer & networking problem.
>
>              I can pay $50.00 for any-one who will spend
>              up to an hour on the phone with me
>              in honest efforts to at least try to
>              cure this printer/networking problem.
>
>              Maybe more.
>
>              I am desperate.
>
>              Any takers?
>
>              Charles Stewart.
>              38788 Barlow Parkway,
>              Sandy Oregon.
>
>
>
>              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>              On 11/06/2015 01:59 AM, wes wrote:
>
>                  I agree that this is an issue with the printer's IP
>         address. I
>                  have a few
>                  of these. I'm too lazy to write down all the steps to
>         deal with
>                  this, but I
>                  made a video of how to view and set the IP.
>
>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJvNbBbrsgU
>
>                  You can find the IP address your internal network uses by
>                  running the
>                  "ifconfig" command on the command line:
>
>                  $ ifconfig
>                  eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 40:40:72:FD:A5:B0
>                              inet addr:192.168.1.59  Bcast:192.168.1.255
>                  Mask:255.255.255.0
>                              inet6 addr: fe80::4240:72ff:fefd:a5b0/64
>         Scope:Link
>                              UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500
>         Metric:1
>                              RX packets:163214907 errors:0 dropped:0
>         overruns:0
>                  frame:0
>                              TX packets:223887222 errors:0 dropped:0
>         overruns:0
>                  carrier:0
>                              collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
>                              RX bytes:12206629277 <tel:12206629277>
>         <tel:12206629277 <tel:12206629277>> (11.3 GiB)
>                  TX bytes:193416766812 (180.1 GiB)
>                              Interrupt:24
>
>                  note the line stating "inet addr:" - this is the IP you
>         should
>                  emulate.
>                  don't use the same one for your printer, use one that
>         won't ever
>                  be used
>                  elsewhere on your network. 254 is a good bet because
>         it's the
>                  highest, and
>                  most networks don't reach the highest number. but it's not
>                  guaranteed.
>
>                  You seem an intrepid type, so hopefully this gives you
>         the right
>                  direction
>                  to pursue.
>
>                  You should be able to ping the IP address once it's set
>         properly:
>
>                  $ ping 192.168.1.254
>                  PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254) 56(84) bytes of data.
>                  64 bytes from 192.168.1.254 <http://192.168.1.254>:
>         icmp_seq=1
>                  ttl=49 time=62.8 ms
>                  64 bytes from 192.168.1.254 <http://192.168.1.254>:
>         icmp_seq=2
>                  ttl=49 time=61.5 ms
>                  64 bytes from 192.168.1.254 <http://192.168.1.254>:
>         icmp_seq=3
>                  ttl=49 time=62.3 ms
>                  64 bytes from 192.168.1.254 <http://192.168.1.254>:
>         icmp_seq=4
>                  ttl=49 time=60.8 ms
>                  ^C
>                  --- 192.168.1.254 ping statistics ---
>                  4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time
>         3004ms
>                  rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 60.873/61.901/62.810/0.749 ms
>
>                  If you can't, you're still having a network problem, don't
>                  bother messing
>                  with your printer configs until this is resolved and
>         you get
>                  ping responses.
>
>                  -wes
>
>                  On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Charles
>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>                  <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
>                      On 11/05/2015 07:06 PM, John Bartley K7AAY
>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>                      <snip>
>
>                          Charles, a Penguinista could also remotely
>         access your
>                          system and, with
>                          you at the system to unplug/replug if needed,
>         help you
>                          solve your issue
>                          without schlepping out 26.
>
>
>                      I really like these
>                      remote screen connections & "virtual network
>         connections", John.
>
>                      I have used them before;
>                      & with a good teckie on the other end,
>                      frequently problems can quickly be remedied.
>
>                      But, under such a set-up, i think i would need
>                      one of the fellas here to agree to try to
>                      work with me in solving my printer-problem with it.
>
>                      And this technology is great for curing probs in a
>                      single-computer;
>                      but when networking & printers are involved,
>                      it frequently seems that live-people need to be in
>         the room.
>
>                          Here's a list of remote access apps
>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software
>                          and
>                          there are free remote client and server apps
>         for Linux.
>
>
>                      Very nice.
>                      I would be happy to install one of these
>                      if any-one here was willing to
>                      dive more deeply in-to the difficulties of my system.
>
>                      Cz ...
>
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