I think the biggest benefit to the inspections (for me) is when I move into a house that I know nothing about. Especially for plumbing and electrical, I want to know that the work was at least looked at by a third party that knows their stuff. (Though I guess for roofing and structural it's also pretty important.) I've seen some CRAZY stuff out there, and anything hidden inside a wall will likely stay that way until it comes out to bite you. No way to inspect for that when you're buying a house...
Yes, when I'm doing my own work and know it's good it's a hassle to bother with the permit and inspections, but in that case I think of it mainly as protecting people down the road. (They have no way of knowing that I do quality work, except that it passed inspection.) I like that idea of having lighting on its own panel and so many separate circuits for different things in preparation for solar. It would sure give you fine-grained control! Never going to happen at this house, though. Reworking everything and tearing it apart just doesn't make sense unless I was going to get into all the walls anyway, and of course I'm not planning to. (Knock on wood. :) ) <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote: > Exactly, most of my electrical work has been industrial, one receptacle per > breaker type work. When I went in to redo the home in Tampa, I found as > many as 6 receptacles per breaker, needless to say I fixed that because of > the same issue, wife can always find the receptacle that has a big load on > it and plug something else in and toss the breaker. So when I rewired it I > put > one receptacle/breaker. 12Ga wire and 20 amp service to all of them, used > industrial grade receptacles (20amp) so had no issues with her doing her > thing on ONE but each had its own breaker. The lighting I put on a separate > panel as I was planning on that being the first part to go solar. I had > moved > to all CFL and was starting to move to LED. I had the power consumption > for lighting down to 400 watts with both all inside and outside (had some > 150W > CFLs) normal operations, I would see between 25 and 50W of pull with a > normal set of lights on in the home at any given time. Most of the time it > was > at or below the 25W level. > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Dick Steffens <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On 04/06/2017 07:56 AM, Chuck Hast wrote: > > > Yea, I keep on forgetting that for a lot of things out here you need a > > > permit. The > > > one thing I miss about FL. I replaced all of the wiring in one house > had > > a > > > good > > > electrician friend come over took a look at it said it was ABOVE spec > and > > > gave > > > it his blessing. I understand when it is a commercial job or something > > like > > > a res- > > > idential rewire ( I was getting my place ready to add solar panels and > > > separate > > > the low power consumption parts from the high power consumers) but even > > > then to demand a permit for everything is just way beyond what I see as > > > good. > > > > > > Bureaucracy run wild. > > > > There's a good side to the permit/inspection bureaucracy, as well as the > > annoying side. It's an insurance plus to have had a permit/inspection if > > something goes wrong down the road. On the other hand, I know that some > > things that are "to code" aren't as good as what I want. And while what > > I want isn't against the code, it's also not what a typical electrician > > would do. Back in the '90s my wife and I volunteered with Habitat for > > Humanity on a project in Aloha. A retired Westinghouse electrical > > engineer (power) was the site supervisor, and an electrician who was a > > member of the sponsoring church consulted. After a little instruction on > > things I had never done (heavy cable and the use of the grease on the > > connection fittings) we wired 10 houses from the meter base on the side > > of the house in. The engineer and I designed the wiring so that there > > were two different 20 amp circuits in each of the four bedrooms. (Not > > that there were just the two outlets in that room were the only outlets > > on one circuit. The same two circuits served two rooms.) This was done > > because the typical family had six or more members, (Mom, Dad, and four > > kids) and one bathroom. So there could be up to four or five hair driers > > running in the morning. Anyway, Habitat had an electrical contractor > > wire another one of the houses. The electricians didn't follow our plan, > > but did their typical run. That put too many outlets on one circuit for > > the need. It was to code, but not what was needed. So, yes. A good idea > > to make sure the wiring meets code, but being able to do it yourself so > > you get what you want is a major benefit. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Dick Steffens > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PLUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > > -- > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. > The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
