Or, just turn on routing/nat/packet filtering on a regular old FreeBSD box with 
2 nics in it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Courtney Rosenthal
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PLUG] pf, OpenBSD, pfSense, FreeBSD

If you are considering a BSD-based firewall, I'd recommend looking at OpnSense. 
OpnSense is a community managed fork.

There are some technical reasons for the preference, but even more there's some 
major baggage associated with Netgate, the provider of pfSense.

https://www.xda-developers.com/why-use-opnsense-over-pfsense-dont-trust-netgate/

Maybe not an option if you've already purchased a pre-installed appliance, but 
just want to throw this out there.

On 10/3/25 7:29 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> pf (packet filter) resembles the firewall for OpenBSD.
> pfSense is based on pf and a gui and modified to use FreeBSD and 
> Netgate hardware as a bundled $1K appliance.
> 
> My "first" Unix was ATT, in Cory Hall at UC Berkeley, across the 
> hallway from the team that later produced BSD Unix.  My first Unix 
> machine was a Tektronix workstation running "UTek", then a PC running 
> BSDI.
> 
> Then Linux. I never looked back.  Or watched the forks of openbsd and 
> freebsd from bsd386.  For many years, I have run a "headless" Linux 
> firewall, using a pcEngines APU 3-port headless single-board-computer.
> 
> However, pfSense running on 686-class hardware and BSD seems more 
> secure as a firewall for a Linux cluster.
> J. Random Cracker must conquer two operating systems (both firewall 
> and production machines) to pown me.
> 
> That said, SUPPORTING two different operating systems increases the 
> load average on my poor aging brain.
> But hey, wise choices never were my forte.
> 
> So, I will attempt to configure and run pfSense preinstalled on 
> another pcEngines APU (with spares).
> 
> -----
> Your snarky disparaging comments here.
> I can always use more.
> -----
> 
> Anyway ... if other PLUGers want to attempt the same approach, misery 
> loves company.  I can imagine a whitehat trial-by-combat at a Linux 
> clinic.  AFTER I make copies of the APU mSATA drives.  As my chimp 
> experimenter friends taught me, ALWAYS mount a scratch monkey.
> 
> Also, pcEngines is no longer in business.  If anyone else knows of a 
> 3xGigabit 5 watt single board computer currently in production, we can 
> play with those, too.
> 
> Keith L.
> 
> P.S. Rule of thumb - 8766 watt-hours, plus aircon, is about $1/year.  
> 5 more watts for a decade is the cost of a cheap date.
> 

-- 
Courtney Rosenthal (she/her) / [email protected] / www.crosenthal.com


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