[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I've been following this OT thread for a while and its quite interesting 
>how the discussion has shifted from focusing on highschool graduates to
>CS graduates... WAY OT na nga, lalo pang naging WAY WAY OT :^) 

I'm just waiting for the moderators to put us back in our place ;-) I suspect they're 
enjoying the thread as well.

>So what I'm saying is that if you can get a student (i.e. HS/elem) interested in 
>programming
>early enough so that it becomes his life's goal -- he will overcome a lot of the 
>limitations
>of our educational system -- because if he is really interested in programming or 
>anything
>computer-related, he will learn all these things (languages, HW, etc...) on his/her 
>own...

IF given the appropriate resources (books, access to computers), support and 
encouragement, yes.

>Kahit siguro dito sa PLUG list na ito, there is only a very small percentage who 
>learned about
>Linux, system administration, programming, etc... in a school course. In fact, I would
>bet that the majority of us here probably learned it by studying on their own (and 
>asking the
>plug-list :^)) because we are interested in learning it, not because its in our 
>curriculum or
>even need it on our job (siyempre, there are always exceptions). 

I think that's obvious.

>PS. On another related-OT topic, is there anyone here in the Philippines 
>studying the newer-fangled trends in software development ?
>(especially in post-doc/Phd/Master levels in the CS depts. 
>in our universities) such as :
>
>    1. Software Design Patterns 
>       (see http://hillside.net/patterns/patterns.html)
>
>    2. Extreme Programming (or other method-lite methodologies)
>       (see http://www.extremeprogramming.org/)

We use design patterns (from Gamma, et al.) and XP at work.

JR

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