>
> Now, Bluepoint's detractors (led by Ian Sison, an *expensive* Linux
> consultant who tried to pirate me from Bluepoint for PHP 150,000.00/mo
> because he could *not* implement a project that he claimed he could)
> used Netcraft to check out our site (Netcraft lang? Why not OS
> fingerprinting via nmap or some other tool?) and found out that it was
> running on IIS simply because Netcraft was roughly two hops away from
> Xandei's server. Ian did not waste time in broadcasting the results to
> the entire PLUG list. After that, he e-mailed me and asked: "..totoo
> bang IIS ang server ninyo?" Wow, sabi nga ni Mari, binanatan ka muna
> bago ka tinanong! Ibang klase din no? He even e-mailed to tell me that
> "...you cannot claim such Linux expertise since you were not even a part
> of the group that we formed in 1993." He was saying that I can never
> possibly develop Buhawi because I was not a member of PLUG. DUH! So
> who's the jerk?
Engels,
Since you have made your thoughts so perfectly clear just how much you
understood what i emailed you a while back let me try to explain _again_
what my points were, and my comments to your apparently challenged
perception of events.
> because he could *not* implement a project that he claimed he could)
For the record, i DID NOT say i could not, i said i CHOSE NOT to implement
such a big project, because i was not a full time employee of DotPH/EMC.
You were first invited to be a full time employee/CTO and that was the
basis and context of the interview i conducted of you.
> Now, Bluepoint's detractors (led by Ian Sison, an *expensive* Linux
I am not an expensive consultant, and i charge from pro-bono and
upwards depending on the requirements of a particular customer. In short,
i scale my fees depending on the requirements of the client.
> consultant who tried to pirate me from Bluepoint for PHP 150,000.00/mo
I DID NOT TRY TO PIRATE YOU. If you remember it was Mylene Anastacio and
Joel Disini of DotPH who were interested in you. As a consultant/interim
CTO, I merely gave a nod if a candidate was qualified for the position of
CTO or not. Given your back-stabbing attitude i am relieved that they
were not successful. They don't need this kind of character in their
ranks.
> used Netcraft to check out our site (Netcraft lang? Why not OS
> fingerprinting via nmap or some other tool?) and found out that it was
> running on IIS simply because Netcraft was roughly two hops away from
For the record, the netcraft URL was posted by Orly Andico, and the
results of which was reinforced by the results of both NMAP and QUESO,
which a lot of us (including me) used on your IIS server. I don't really
CARE if you switched servers mid-stream for whatever reason, my point was
that during the time of your fantastic press release, your web pages were
hosted on a windows IIS server. Now you ask "is that so bad?" And i ask
you back, how much respect would you have for Redhat Software or VA Linux
if you discover their webpages were hosted on an NT IIS box?
> bang IIS ang server ninyo?" Wow, sabi nga ni Mari, binanatan ka muna
> bago ka tinanong! Ibang klase din no? He even e-mailed to tell me that
I don't have to ask. The technical data stands out for itself.
> "...you cannot claim such Linux expertise since you were not even a part
> of the group that we formed in 1993." He was saying that I can never
> possibly develop Buhawi because I was not a member of PLUG. DUH! So
> who's the jerk?
Gee you got that conclusion from a statement you pulled out of context?
If you will read my email again,
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:39:52 +0800 (PHT)
From: Ian C. Sison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [URGENT] You must reply to this
Hi Engels,
It seems the recent press announcements by your over-eager PR staff is
making the local linux community restless, particulary your claim that you
have the first ever pinoy linux distribution.
If you would like to defend this statement to your peers in the local
linux community i would really like to invite you to join our mailing list
at by subscribing to our mailing list and sending email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It doesn't hold well to claim such linux expertise when your group is not
even part of the community of both experts and newbies we have formed
since 1993. Through our mailing list we have offered top quality expert
advise on Linux and open source all thoughout this time.
Additionally, it doesn't really look good to have a website supposedly
dedicated to linux and open source advocacy and training - be hosted on a
server running Microsoft Windows NT and IIS. Members of the local linux
community have port-scanned, service probed your site, and posted the
results to our mailing list. It is truly a disgrace to what you say you
stand for, and unfortunately this kind of publicity tends to go around.
Again, please come and be a part of our community. As we have proven
throughout the years, it would be a lot better world for linux and open
source if we banded together to serve the community at a level and quality
much higher than any commercial software vendor may ever be able to
provide.
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You will see that the context of the email was in reaction to your "press
release" to which you later publicly retracted to be the result of being
mis-quoted. If you truly felt you were misquoted, then this kind of
backstabbing must also be someones idea of a joke?
Again, i would like to STRESS that one does not go around claiming
expertise in a vaccum. Most especially in a community effort that
comprises linux.
Do that and you will definitely get into trouble. Notice my last
paragraph? It was an invitation to join the group, to participate in our
projects, and help those in need. Linux was built by a community, after
all. Not by some company working in a vaccum.
We are not a clique of professionals from one school or company. The
people in PLUG are comprised of professionals from diverse and even
COMPETING industries, academicians (both teachers and students) from
different universities and schools, and interested hobbyists. We share a
common goal, and that is Linux - it's advocacy, support, and development.
If there is a _local_ group that can recognise your efforts in creating
the first _local_ distribution, then PLUG is most definitely it. If you
or your company does not want to submit to peer review (which is something
that is the foundation of linux development), then that is your
prerogative. Just don't go around flaunting your "expertise" because like
it or not, you will get criticized, both privately and publicly.
In closing, i would like to say that if you have "issues" with PLUG, be
man enough to post them and publicly defend your point of view. People
will respect you more, and acknowledge you for your ideas and all the work
you have done. It's a lot more professional than keeping it all bottled
in and then attacking us from behind our backs.
Ian Sison
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