On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 10:41:46PM +0800, Paolo wrote:
> Well, I think a plug-misc would be good.
So a plug-misc would be more like an anytopic chat group - like GENMSG or CHAT. ;)
Usual netiquette would apply - keep the flames and forwards down, that sort of thing.
I think it's a terrific idea. One of the things I like so much about Linux is the
culture that's grown up around it and made it possible. Besides, I'd love to chat
about computer culture - things like the Jargon File (really funny) and ethics
questions...
... but that's not really a Linux thing any more, is it?
What _would_ go into a plug-misc?
I guess the reason why I sometimes (rather frequently, lately) post offtopic here is
because it's a convenient way to contact many people with similar interests. =)
Like Oh! My Goddess! (Keiichi is soooo clueless, though), Linux, and cool little
gadgets... =)
> Also,iIt would be easier on everybody's nerves when a newbie posts to
> plug-misc and is told by a plugger to elevate his issue to
> ph-linux-newbie.
But then that's a three layer cascade, and quite a few people will be subscribed to
all three.
On IRC, there's #linux and #linuxhelp. #linux is where people who like Linux
socialize. They don't have to help people - in fact, the topic sometimes reads "Need
help? #linuxhelp". ;) It's sorta like #linpeople, I think.
On #linuxhelp, we try to be much nicer to newbies. RTFM's not really said without a
helpful clue as to which docs will be useful. We're there to try to help, after all.
It's a nice place to hang out - I learn a lot while doing volunteer tech support! ;)
Develops your patience, too. <wry grin>
> These posters would understandably consider their posts non-newbie and
> send it happily to plug.
I think the issue before was that newbies were getting way intimidated by the PLUG
traffic? ;) Technical jargon, holy wars, RTFMs, that sort of thing? (Okay, maybe a bit
of an exaggeration.)
I suppose a nice welcome message with a disclaimer might really come in handy. Useful
pointers - linuxdoc.org has excellent HOWTOs, for one - and something along the lines
of "Don't worry if you don't understand what they're talking about."
In fact, it might be nice to add a little more detail to the list descriptions...
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