On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> hehe sometimes it is not what you want, it's what the client wants :)
> >>
> >
> > Actually if the client exists and i cannot convince him otherwise, he
> > can go get another consultant. What use is there of you if he won't
> > make use of your expertise? If he wants to use sendmail, then he can
> > get someone else to do it or do it himself. Simple!
> >
>
> i said sometimes and this is true in practice
>
> you dont say when you are working on a consultanty that go get another
> consultant and it is not simple if it is your way of living dude its
> not the he doesnt want your expertise its just thats what they want or
> even need,
Yes i do say that _to their faces_, and i walk away. Frankly if this is
the kind of client i have to deal with, i would rather not. These types
are control freaks, with closed minds, and in these cases, i really do not
believe that "the customer is always right".
Precisely the reason why someone approaches you for help is because they
_want_ to know what's right. If their intention is to use me as a rubber
stamp for their misguided likes/dislikes, then i'd rather let someone else
do that, not me.
> and yes i do agree on you even as i take it as arrogance telling your
> customers go get another consultant or do it yourself ( specially if
> this is your way of living ) if you do this part time no problem...
I do linux FULL time, and I do have that policy. Part of doing linux is
the fun in helping people grow and understand what linux is all about, and
making it work for them. If i can't do that, then it's not worth the
trouble.
> we should be open minded, and your personal preference SOMETIMES doesn't
> count on real practice, you could and may talk to them and convince them
> but then again sometimes things don't go as you want it to be..
But that's the beauty of being a consultant. If you don't agree with
the company you are consulting with, you can always just walk away!
When it comes to linux, there is no such thing as PERSONAL preferences.
There are community-based common consensus, which should be applied in the
cases that they were designed to.
For instance, it's generally acknowledged that sendmail is a stupid choice
for high volume mail servers. If someone were to approach me for help and
give conditions that i use sendmail, then kahit na isang milyon pa, di ko
kukunin yung project. Principles are principles, and there's no
compromising them. Oo nga, i would be a million pesos richer, puro sakit
naman ng ulo ang aabutin ko, puro reklamo. Not worth it. The same goes
if someone where to approach me to help them configure a slackware linux
based ISP, or server farm. Some story.
> what i said(wrote) was with HUMOR and yes, a fact in real practice
yep! and i simply replied to it as candid as i can. No flames here, just
plain old fashion truth! \8)
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