--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Miguel A.L. Paraz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Zope man! > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 12:50:52AM -0700, Butch Landingin wrote: > > Willing to help in exchange for coffee and cookies. ;^) > > Ah it seems that we have found our Teacher :) >
Not a teacher, more like a teaching assistant :^) > Master, how much Python do you need to know to get into hacking Zope? > About 2 weeks worth...(j.k. ;^).) But really -- python is really *easy* -- if you don't believe me, ask ESR -- check out this piece he wrote about the time he learned Python... http://noframes.linuxjournal.com/lj-issues/issue73/3882.html OTOH, I don't want to start a perl/python flamewar here, so if you don't agree with his opinions, siya yung awayin nyo ;^) The bad news is that the Zope Code (written in Python as well as C) is medyo intense (parang linux kernel code -- I may know C, but that doesn't mean I can hack the kernel just because its written in C). There's a good reason Zopistas keep mentioning the "Zen of Zope" because its pretty likely you have to keep banging your head for a while before reaching "s'tori" and start grokking Zope code. The hard part about Zope is conceptual -- yung architecture, design patterns and idioms na ginamit nila in order to build it -- not the Python language itself. The good news is that you don't need to get to that level before being able to appreciate Zope. The Python knowledge level to be able to use and extend Zope is much much lower... Also, there's already documentation (as well as a very active and supportive community of users) about how to use and extend Zope so at least you have enough help to get you started towards the path of "Zope enlightenment" ;^) > > (and free tix in case a PLUG rock/jazz band ever materializes > > and hold a concert :^)) > > Well let's have an open jam then... > Cool! > > > > BTW, have you tried looking at > > > > www.diveintopython.org > > > > Its one of the best intros of python for > > experienced programmers... > > Only heard of it now... now got the PDF version... thanks for the > reference! Since most of the people interested here have already some familiarity with a programming language, this book (downloadable as HTML/PDF/etc with an Open Content License) is *highly recommended* -- kasi, hindi na kayo bi-ne-baby with "hello, world" examples... but with "real-world" but simple programs... HTH! BTW, I'm also okay kung Saturdays niyo gawin yung time for the study group... Best regards, Butch __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com _ Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
