At 10:46 AM 11/15/01, you wrote:
>If you want something stable, might be better to go with SO5.2 
>(if you don't have it yet).

i've got that (Linux and windows).  i cannot *stand* that integrated
desktop.  and it never performed very well for me on my Pentium 133s
with only 48MB of RAM.  but even now that i've got a better computer
i still can't stand that desktop.

>SO 6 Beta has been a bit moody with me.

the windows version has been very good.  i was going to try the
Linux version since i'm trying to switch over (as much as possible,
can't switch completely since we do some Windows development, Visual
Basic, bleacch) to Linux.

hehe, would be funny story except it's true.  

    i was booted into windows and stress testing a visual basic 
    client server database app today (pounding the server with 
    lots of data from a simulator program whose only goal in life 
    is to generate data)  and having the server report over the 
    network to many vb clients.

    after a BSOD (i don't really get that many BSODs from this 
    software, this was perhaps only the fifth in a month of 
    development, although VB crashes regularly, sometimes taking
    new, unsaved source with it) i found that lilo wouldn't 
    work, my linux rescue disk wouldn't work.  somehow windows had
    found a way to trash the MBR AND the primary linux partition
    without touching the primary NTFS partition or the secondary 
    FAT32 drive.

    i tried to do a rescue fsck (using the Mandrake install CD
    and the emergency shell) but doing it interactively took too
    long.  it's now on automatic fsck and it's been running for
    more than 12 hours.  somehow i don't think i'm going to have
    a usable system when i go back there :).

hehe, this: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3903/1/
is about Microsoft insecure products and the legal liability 
wars that might result from them (of course it's polemical, but
you only need the right stone rolling at the right time and place
to start a landslide that wipes away monopolists.  

unfortunately, for not switching to complete linux development 
early enough (and trying to dance with the devil part-time), 
i have no one but myself to blame for the downtime.  fortunately 
my sources are on CVS on the network, so i didn't lose very much, 
just email, and i've got all of that backed up (all my email is 
mirrored to backup accounts).

i should take this as a blessing and try another distribution, i
guess. i really liked Mandrake 8.1, and i've used redhat and 
slackware (back when it came on floppies :). time to look at
Debian and, later, Suse.  yeah, and maybe cluster my multiple
slow pentiums so that together they can outrun a Pentium 3
700, or something :).

>BTW, I'm running RH7.1.  Oddly, I find Openoffice more stable.
>   Another download site is mozcom's ftp 
>(ftp://ftp.mozcom.com/pub/linux/staroffice/).

ah, cool.  i'll try that (off-peak only) if they'll let me in.

thanks!  but first, to download and install Debian :).

tiger

PS.  has anyone tried any Linux 2.4.x distribution with KDE 2.x
on a Pentium 133/166 with 64MB or less of RAM?  i find it 
abominably slow so my slow linux box stays at KDE 1.x.  i ask
only because if someone has a different experience/opinion, then
i may put my spare 166/64 box back together and try to install
Mandrake 8.1 with XFree 4.x and KDE 4.x and see if it was slow 
the last time because of something i did (or didn't do).  thanks
for any input.
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