On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:28:01PM +0800, Sacha V. Chua wrote (wyy sez):
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:50:26AM +0800, Andy Sy wrote:
> 
> > Make is hardly needed for most Java projects. While with Python, it's not
> > even something you need to think about.  Of course, neither is anywhere
> > near as fast as C.
> 
> William says: use ant. =)
> 
ant is the make of java. it is in XML. i am kinda getting the hang of it na.
i still use C for systems development and Java for large scale projects.

> > > kdevelop - so far this is the hands down champion of OSS IDE's. it has
> > > a wizard for starting any type of app from KDE, QT, GNOME and console
> > Graphical IDEs... pwe! Have never really been that endeared to them from
> 
> I like IDEs that let me easily set breakpoints, add watches, that sort
> of thing... Yes, I have yet to get the hang of gdb and ctags. =)
>
then use kdevelop to generate the GNU toolchains config files and drop
back to your vi and/or emacs. 

ang labo mo daming gusto. first, you speak of learning curve. then you speak
of not being endeared to graphicals IDEs. what next? M$ makes good 
non-graphical IDEs. hay.

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