On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:43:00PM +0800, Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote:

> ang labo mo daming gusto. first, you speak of learning curve. then you speak
> of not being endeared to graphicals IDEs. what next? M$ makes good 
> non-graphical IDEs. hay.

Hey, you're the one who doesn't like graphical IDEs. I like graphical
IDEs like I like XWindows - it's a good thing, if only to organize my
rxvts. ;) Emacs is sorta like a GUI IDE already, if you think about it.
<impish grin> With JDE, it even has that funky
autocomplete/intellisense/whatever.

I don't mind learning curve. I'm nuts, remember? I just hate IDEs that
visibly slow down when I'm trying to do something; the cause of my ire
with Emacs from time to time, actually, since sometimes fontlock and JDE
reaallly slow down my comp. (And I happen to like fontlock max at
that...)

Microsoft actually makes pretty decent IDEs, although their
documentation could be a bit more useful than it currently is..
<grumble> Whatever happened to nice, easy to understand code snippets?
Anyway, that's one of my pet peeves. Then there's the fact that most
things cost lots of money in the Microsoft culture, like those DLLs you
need for web development...

.. and the hardware and disk space you need to start developing -
don't even get me started on that. <laugh> Then again the Linux
toolchains take up a fair bit of space as well, but I feel like I'm
getting more bang for the buck. Windows didn't do too well on half of my
4GB hard disk, so between Windows and Linux I decided to go Linux all
the way. You know that story already, William! <grin>

So in summary, I've nothing against Microsoft except that their tools
tend to lead to lockin and their documentation often sucks... Linux docs
suck from time to time, but at least I can go bug a lot of people about
it, or spend a few hours/weeks/months staring at the source. ;)

Oops, I'm ranting again, aren't I?

Well, to be fair, I haven't really invested a lot of time in developing
on the Windows platform. I'm pretty certain that if I immersed myself in
MS stuff, I'd get the hang of VC++ and friends. I'd discover and use
most of the shortcuts (did you know that VC++ recognizes Emacs bindings?
I think that's pretty cool =) ), and maybe I'd actually program much
faster on Windows, especially with its focus on drag-and-drop
programming. Maybe I'd even be convinced that Windows isn't as
developer-unfriendly as I thought. 

Who knows? We'll see. But I want to get used to development on Linux -
there's just so much more incentive to do so, and it's admittedly much
more convenient... There's still so much I have to learn - I'm no GNU
tools guru, and I don't write complex makefiles in my sleep - so you'll
probably see me trying to play around with all of those weird,
steep-learning-curve thingamajigs I can apt^H^H^H rpm -Uvh in... <g>

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