Hi,

At 04:11 AM 1/14/02 +0800, you wrote:
>I was hoping for a technical explanation of how hibernate
>functionality might work under Linux, not start a pissing
>contest.

One of the reasons why it is not integrates is the fact that Linux was 
originally intended as server OS that does not require to be turned off or 
rebooted.... very much unlike Windows OS.

> > As for XP's case, only time will tell if it's stable or
> > not. Judging Win2000's case (which formed the skeleton
> > of WinXP, it has been already proven not to be secure
> > given the humiliating experiences with CodeRed and Nimda
>
>Like I keep saying on and on and on and on: XP/2K is
>STABLE (i.e. crash-resistant) but horribly INSECURE!

Crash-resistant? I don't think so -- I have experienced XP crash several 
times already.

>I'm all for the idea that Linux/free software world should
>not blindly copy every new 'innovation' that Microsoft comes
>up with (although some are quite desirable). That's what the
>phrase "not competing with Windows" means to me. Some Linux
>fan(atics) actually think competing with Windows is a good
>idea.  The Ximian people who are trying to port .NET over
>for instance.  Or this author who was crying out for Apache
>to provide support for Web Services (I guess Tomcat should
>take care of that).

Linux only "copies" Windows "innovation" to allow its users to migrate to 
Linux flawlessly. Let's face it, it is a Windows-desktop world still but 
once you get people using Linux, they will dump Windows all together, I hope.

>Apparently though, Microsoft can see that GNU/Linux/(KDE or
>GNOME) is _good enough_ to compete with Windows. Distros like
>Red Hat, Mandrake, Caldera, etc... are *at least* on par with
>the ease of install and desktop functionality of Win 9x.
>However, 2K/XP have introduced a lot of compelling improvements.

XP is good for users and not for developers.

>Thus, once again, Linux has more catching up to do. I have
>no reason to see why Linux should not be able to catch up
>given time. But will it OVERTAKE Windoze in these areas?  Now
>THAT is an interesting question.

What areas are you talking about? Linux is fast catching up in the PDA 
world. Microsoft is catching up with J2EE with its .Net. Microsoft is 
catching up with Java. Microsoft is catching up in the mobile phone world 
as well.

>Application-wise, Linux still has nowhere near the application
>base that Win 9x had.  But I believe that since Linux has become

Yes, thanks to Microsoft's monopoly and not much for its innovation.

>friendly enough for non-techie users to adopt, it bodes well for
>the Linux application market (although distro fragmentation is
>an important concern). I still maintain that the gap between apps
>available for Linux and Windows has widened. Apps previously
>found only on high end Unix systems - top-of-the-line CG software
>like Maya, SoftImage, Renderman, etc... - have now been ported over
>to NT/2K/XP. While it hasn't happened yet, it's not hard to imagine
>seeing them on Linux soon (but I'll be doggoned if they come
>for free!!). And while I haven't used it yet, it seems that
>Borland's Kylix (now at version 2) is something that Linux fans
>should applaud about (GNOME fan-atics might purse their lips a
>little though).

Get an old copy of Linux Journal and you will see how much these Computer 
Generated Images are rendered by Linux server farms! I don't see Microsoft 
Windows being used by Pixar and the rest of the lot.

>If MS had taken its time to come out with 2K/XP(*) , their
>market share would be in *really* deep trouble.  As it is, the
>proliferation of (relatively) mature, user-friendly Linux
>distros is cause enough for them to worry about (their hidden
>friend is distro fragmentation).

It may matter but let's wait and see - Solaris is now binary compatible 
with Linux -- this will help promote it. And we all know how Sun feels 
about Microsoft.

>(*) intended more to compete with the Mac than Linux - a
>good strategy given that it is that much harder to eat into
>the 'market share' of a (more or less) free OS.

Indeed - Windows LnF is catching up with the Mac!!!!! Call that INNOVATION!

>One important con of using Windows is you really have to
>be on your guard against viruses and network security

Yes, because they do not have a sense of security!

>(using a firewall is almost de rigueur even when using
>dial-up)(*). Overall, though, the bit of extra work needed
>to secure your desktop is worth it given the overwhelming
>choice of mature apps available on the platform. Linux
>is improving all the time, but Windows isn't standing
>still either.

Yes, they are busy trying to wrestle their way out of their lawsuits! Good 
thing the US gov't did not buy their proposal! Ha!

>Of course, I'm more for cheering improvements (just because
>you don't hear me doing it now doesn't mean I haven't done
>so) on the Linux side because it's free software.  But that
>doesn't mean that I have to blind myself to the advantages of
>using Windows.  Also, the attitude of Linux bigots can really
>turn off or scare non-techies who are considering the switch
>(it's as if Linux users were a cult).

The attitude only becomes evident when they're attached by a Windows-bigot!

>At the risk of once again offending someone by pointing
>out the plain truth, perhaps that applies more to the
>"Windows sitting/not sitting on top of DOS" or "CLR/.NET"
>discussions (both exclusively Microsoft topics).

And to Linux-bashing as well.

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