Pablo Manalastas said:

> So to require that Linux 
> distributions be called GNU/Linux is dictatorial 
> on the part of RMS.

Now we see where MS gets off calling GNU 
leftist/communistic/'anti-american'... :-D 

RMS should be thankful enough as it is that Linus 
chose the GNU utilities instead of say, the BSD 
ones (which would serve the purpose equally well), 
and thus, because of that decision, GNU is as 
popular as it is now.

RMS' quirks often affect the quality of the software 
he writes as well - case in point would be GCC-Objective 
C which can't leave the Objective C standard well 
enough alone. You can't use the very common and 
standard #import directive without being forced
to read a multi-line error/warning diatribe
(for each occurence!) about why the author (if not
RMS, then a like-minded disciple) thinks said
construct is a bad idea. Hardly what I would call 
egoless programming. 

Speaking as a programmer, I find that stuff like 
this and RMS' intractable attitude greatly detract 
from the appeal of GNU software. 

Apparently, the XEmacs 
(http://www.xemacs.org/About/XEmacsVsGNUemacs.html ,
http://www.jwz.org/doc/lemacs.html , etc...)
developers have also had a taste of RMS' curmudgeonly 
ways and decided to forego cooperating with the 
guy.

> He is fighting for the IDEAL of "freedom" to study 
> the source code and improve it.  

BSD and MPL-style licenses reflect this ideal just
as much and without the corresponding "holier-than-thou"
attitude. It's interesting to note how companies like 
Trolltech and MySQL find that the GNU license as-is
is clearly not viable for commercial purposes and
have resorted to dual licensing their offerings.

Rafael Sevilla said:

> If there were no "extremist" FSF led by Stallman, 
> it would be quite likely that the more moderate
> factions such as the open source movement would 
> probably have sold out their principles to corporate 
> money long ago.

Like ESR? :-) Anyway, I don't believe we necessarily 
need extremists to help counter 'people compromising
their principles'.  Open source has been around long 
before RMS came on the scene and the people who truly 
believe in the concept have continued contributing such 
software with or without RMS and the GPL. RMS and GPL 
have their places in the free software community, but 
they are far from being the be-all and end-all of it.

Look at the Delphi components scene for which many
purveyors have been supplying source code for
their components without any regard for the GPL or
what RMS seems to consider gospel truths.  They do 
so simply because it is a good idea and commercially 
viable for them to do so (the nature of Delphi 
development makes offering source code for your 
components a compelling advantage over competitors 
who don't).


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