On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 at 10:47, Marvin Pascual wrote: > On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 17:47, -JhAzEr- wrote: > > > > i think what ian wanted to say is, that you *must* have a packaging system to be >able to maintain your systems. whether it's rpm/apt/urpmi/pkgtool etc. > > There is no such thing as URPMI packaging system. Mandrake is an RPM > distro which uses URPM related tools to make the (RPM) packages easier > to handle with. URPMI is a Perl script to install or upgrade RPMs. > Likewise with URPME, is a Perl script to remove RPM packages from your > system.
I know someone will notice. my mistake. so the mandrake packaging system is also called RPM? is that right? > > i think maintainability (as per your definition of it) only applies to enterprise >servers or mission critical servers, where re-installing is a SCARY process ;) > > Yes and no. > > Yes, because as what Ian said from the previous messages, what if you > are handling 50 servers per location and it so happen that there are > several SECURITY ALERT that you need to upgrade your existing packages? > > No, because making your life easier with respect of the word > "maintainability" is NOT only limited to the enterprise servers. For > example, if I can save at least 5 minutes of using URPMI over the RPM > command of installing some packages is already a big deal for me. There > are several things I can work on with my 5 minutes, (like texting to my > friends and uhumm..., hehehe). did you read between the lines? i was replying to ian's observation regarding *maintanability*. let me quote ian's reply for YOU to understand, "...make install kills maintainability, and gives hell to the next sysad in line (who will most likely reinstall your server anyway)" see the message enclosed in parenthesis? that's what i was replying for, in response to that. because we're talking about maintainability meaning to say that whoever should replace the current sysad should not try to start it all from scratch. but from ian's observation (which is correct), the should be sysad will mostly re-install everything. and that's why i added that it's only applicable (base on ian's observation) to enterprise and mission critical servers, because re-installing it is a SCARY process. maybe you should try to understand the meaning of the message that you're replying to...it will help you prevent from being flamed! > > Good luck distro advocates! =) hehehe... ha! first you didn't understand the content, now it's the subject! i suggest you read again and again and again this thread (specially the one relating to package managers) until you understand it. it's not really about Slackware advocacy...there is more into it... Slackware 9.0 Beta ------------------------------ pub 1024D/04BAE461 2002-10-22 -JhAzEr- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sub 1024g/63BA0ABD 2002-10-22 Mobile Phone: 0920-2625725 Window Manager ---> Ratpoison-1.1.1 Email Client ---> Pygmy-0.6.0 Web Browser ---> Phoenix-0.5 (Naples) [gcc-3.2] [gnupg-1.2.0] [gpgme-0.3.9] _ Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Searchable Archives With Friendly Web Interface at http://marc.free.net.ph To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
