On Sat, 2004-04-10 at 14:00, Paul Patrick Carpio Prantilla wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I was wondering if there are people here who use debian woody on
> computers directly connected to the internet...but at the same time
> can't resist backporting or installing a "few packages" from the
> unstable branch. The point is, I'd like a system (I wouldn't really call
> this a server though btw) that's directly connected to the net to be as
> stable as possible, but isn't stuck with old packages like
> xfree86(ver<4.3), gnome 1.4, and so forth. I'd also like it to have some
> goodies only available from unstable such as wireless-extensions,bluez
> packages,tvtime,etc. This is because it's also used for desktop
> activities especially when not online.

When I was still using Debian Potato (2.2) and backports.org didn't
exist yet, I was quite active in backporting a lot of packages...

Nowadays, using the apt repositories found at www.backports.org would
save you a lot of time especially that you're using the current stable
distribution of Debian GNU/Linux.


> Now, while I do use sid on other computers, can anyone give me insights
> on whether installing sid on the said sytem is a good idea? Or should I
> just stick with backports? I'm trying to balance security, stablity and
> functionality together. I've gotten numerous mixed reactions on this in
> linux/debian chat channels, so I was thinking I'd post the topic here.

Backports if you're trying to balance functionality and stability
altogether. There's a reason why the Unstable distribution got its name
:D Or why is it named after Sid of Toy Story :D


> Finally, I'd also like to ask what kind of setups fellow debian users
> here have. Does anyone of you actually still use woody? I personally
> have gnome 2.2, kde 3.2 on my woody. The problem is, trying to make them
> coexist with one another has broken a few other packages. For packages
> that just aren't available for woody, I try to compile from source after
> hunting down compatible versions if they exist (a very time-consuming
> task I might add). Thus I'm now seriously contemplating on whether I
> should just stop the madness and go full-blown sid, while simply
> version-pinning the packages I think are ok enough for me.

As a former backport packager, it is indeed a very time-consuming
process. The situation is a bit better though, than two years ago -
backporting then is a real pain as the tools that support multiple
distributions are in testing and unstable, but not in the stable
distribution back then.

I still use Woody for mission-critical systems that require real
stability, but I use backported packages every once in a while if it's
really too old and missing the functionality I require.

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Paolo Alexis Falcone
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