Hello! I was doing some re-reading of my backlog of PLUG emails (there's more than 2000 of them) and I came across this. Medyo luma na nga ito, pero I'm going ahead with my $0.02 worth (which is actually worth at least a peso, come to think of it...):
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 02:00:02PM +0800, Paul Patrick Carpio Prantilla wrote: > Hello All, > > I was wondering if there are people here who use debian woody on > computers directly connected to the internet...but at the same time > can't resist backporting or installing a "few packages" from the > unstable branch. The point is, I'd like a system (I wouldn't really call > this a server though btw) that's directly connected to the net to be as > stable as possible, but isn't stuck with old packages like > xfree86(ver<4.3), gnome 1.4, and so forth. I'd also like it to have some > goodies only available from unstable such as wireless-extensions,bluez > packages,tvtime,etc. This is because it's also used for desktop > activities especially when not online. > I have *almost* exactly the same situation, although in my case, I wanted to get sound working on my box, but the OSS of 2.4.18 and ALSA 0.9 in woody wasn't up to the task. Also, I wanted more eye candy (at the time), and seeing gnome2.4 hitting unstable, it was a temptation too good to refuse... > Now, while I do use sid on other computers, can anyone give me insights > on whether installing sid on the said sytem is a good idea? Or should I > just stick with backports? I'm trying to balance security, stablity and > functionality together. I've gotten numerous mixed reactions on this in > linux/debian chat channels, so I was thinking I'd post the topic here. > At the risk of repeating what others have said, the consensus is this: if you want security AND stability, use woody; if you want to step into the Threshold of the Not-So-Bleeding-Edge, use testing; if you really want to drop the hat, use unstable; and it you want to drop the hat, the box and the rabbit, use experimental ;-) For everything else, either you use pinning, or (the _MORE_MODERN_ way) set up a chroot. I refer you to `apt-get -t unstable install \ debian-reference` for the details of these options (and hey, that's a pin! :) > Finally, I'd also like to ask what kind of setups fellow debian users > here have. Does anyone of you actually still use woody? I personally > have gnome 2.2, kde 3.2 on my woody. The problem is, trying to make them > coexist with one another has broken a few other packages. For packages > that just aren't available for woody, I try to compile from source after > hunting down compatible versions if they exist (a very time-consuming > task I might add). Thus I'm now seriously contemplating on whether I > should just stop the madness and go full-blown sid, while simply > version-pinning the packages I think are ok enough for me. > For me, I just took the plunge of testing since that was the best idea at the time, and it worked beautifully... and then I got gnome2.4 from sid... tried kde3.2, didn't like it, and purged it... and now I'm tinkering with xfce4 and I like the efficiency and speed it offers, and also on top of that, I'm now doing some Debian packaging work as well (I'm on my way to being a DD! ;-) And the beauty of all of this: my system never broke. You'll never look back once you take the Plunge (from the Nestea ad, you bet...) So, that's my peso's worth. Probably better put as an SMS, but with Malaca�ang mulling about putting a tax on it, I guess it's better to put is as latin1-encoded RFC-822 compliant character stream anyway...) HTH, Zakame -- |*-------------ZAK B. ELEP (Registered Linux User #327585)-------------*| |* Web: http://zakame.spunge.org GPG ID: 0xFA53851D *| |* Phone: (+63)916-2458830 ICQ UIN: 33236644 *| |*----------1486 7957 454D E529 E4F1 F75E 5787 B1FD FA53 851D----------*| -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GU>AT d-(+) s-:- a--->-- C+(++) UL++++ P+ L++>+++ E@ W+++ N+ o K w(--) O+ !M !V PS(+) PE(+) Y+ PGP+++(++) t+ 5 X- R++ tv(+) b++(+++) !DI D+ G>+++ e>++ h! !r !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
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