On Wednesday 21 July 2004 10:26, Ron Michael Khu wrote:
> nope, i think he just wants a "simple" batch system that ordinary users
> could use (w/o the use of at, cron and batch)

that would be a "batch" system that runs forever.  fortunately,
he's going to sleep, so it doesn't eat CPU too much, but
it *will* eat memory, and start and stop processes continuously
(usually not a problem, but if the system is heavily loaded, this
might overload it, particularly if many users will be running this
batch system).

crontab -e lets users schedule their own cron jobs without needing
to be root.  the thing lang about that is, the syntax still gets in the
way of non-techies.

there are lots of possible workarounds here, still, using cron or at.

i've said before, that i've seen perl and bash jobs that run for too
long and then start eating up the CPU for no reason.  maybe the
current kernels and perl and bash implementations won't do
this anymore (this was a few years ago, and i've forgotten the
details, except i moved that system to use cron instead because
of the problem), but maybe they still do and he's going to find
out the hard way.

if you can do it right (with cron or at), then it's better to do it right.
although, if he's just in the mood to hack, well, that's fine too
as long as he knows the potential problems and accepts the
responsibility if the thing blows up :).

tiger

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