On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 08:05:25PM +0800, Roger Filomeno wrote: > Wow.. i can feel the tension when Sir Ian Sison started to speak. I > seemed to have picked the seat surrounded by the "unbelievers" ;p > > Here are more points we missed to discuss during the open forum: > > 1. open source can jump start your technology - Having the source > means being able to duplicate and enchance the technology. Like if i > have downloaded a bluetooth stack (BlueZ) and Open Obex source codes > to install them. I also gained access to the technology itself, i can > complete study the codes and the implementation thus enriching my > skills (this would include HCI, SPD and OBEX which i already have ;p). > > Microsoft users however does not benefit like this way, they rely on > API which does not tell how the implementation/re-production of > technology is done. In short M$ users are technology users, opensource > users are technology makers. It also allows us to go ahead and pursue > new cutting edge technologies unlike M$ users who has to wait until M$ > actually uses the technology. ;p >
As said here and elsewhere, `use the source, Luke!' :) Indeed, it seems to be the way the technology world works: Like the adage `give a man fish so he'll eat for a day; give a man knowledge on how to fish and he'll eat a lifetime', FOSS gives you the fishing rod, complete with hook, line and sinker, to catch both the small fish of hobbyists and liberals, and the big fish of multinationals earning big. Closed and shackled software doesn't give you that, although you might make a free meal out of it, that won't be always the case. > Before i forget.. who has an API on Bluetooth stack for WindowsXP SP2? > i need it badly.. do i have to wait till MSDN releases that or SP2 > comes out? ;p > > 2. Opensource has the most fanatical support which M$ would be hard to > duplicate! i can assure that coz i read mails till 3am. ;p For M$ to > have the same support, well they would need to open up their source > code.. which i bet they wouldnt ;p > Let's all hope for the *impossible* to happen. Jesus managed to get back from the dead, and that's the corpus delicti of `nothing's impossible', just perilously difficult... > 3. Opensource has no Service Pack waiting.. coz you know the > technology, you can fix it ASAP yourself and for good karma you can > share that to the rest of the community. On the other M$ users will > have to wait.. Again, who knows when will WinXP SP2 come out? ;p > > I missed the BOF on track 3 coz i was at BOF on track 2 but i hope > this adds up to the discussions, for those who attend the other tracks > can you guys also post your comments? > > I attended only the first day (but I went back there today for the exhibits, which are free ;) and went into the LAMP BOF. I was a bit so-so. Well, I wouldn't really blame anyone here, 'coz it was the first time such an event happened here... but the BOF on Security was great! Just forgot to tell everybody there that ipv6 on 2.6.8.1 is borked (on Freenet6, haven't tried on other 6bones yet :( and that the closest thing to an `OpenBSD Linux' would be OpenWall GNU+Linux (http://www.openwall.org/Owl), which was billed by Phrack (somewhere in the 60s issues) as the ``most secure'' Linux distro as evaluated by Blackhats. Well, I guess we all know that there's no such thing as complete and utter security into any OS, just ``trust'' in the code and in the name... Cheers, Zakame PS: I'm now using Knoppix on my cousin's aging desktop (pentiumII with 64MB SDRAM). And it _still_is fast! -- |=-------------ZAK B. ELEP (Registered Linux User #327585)-------------=| || Web: http://zakame.spunge.org GPG ID: 0xFA53851D || || http://zakame.homelinux.org ICQ UIN: 33236644 || || Location: Daet, Camarines Norte Running Linux 2.6 || |=----------1486 7957 454D E529 E4F1 F75E 5787 B1FD FA53 851D----------=| Debian - When you've got better things to do than to fix a borken system -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug . Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie
