When you put SMB password into root RO file, it is not secure locally, but
it is not transmitted over the network in the plain text as far as I know.

In my experience, SMB/CIFS is quie painful to use in multi user, multi
machine world without domain compatible single sign of.

To be fair, same goes for NFS with Kerberos, if you cannot live without
server side authentication.

Off topic:
In my opinion - single sign on should be basic stuff done by any ..nix
household chiefdom setup for both Linux and Windows. Once working, it makes
huge difference in usability and security. And it currently keeps M$ away
from local network resource scans.

-T

On Dec 4, 2017 3:47 PM, "David" <dafr+p...@dafr.us> wrote:

> On 12/04/2017 03:36 PM, michael wrote:
>
>> On 2017-12-04 17:00, David wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/04/2017 02:33 PM, michael wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have it working.  I don't want the password for the owner of the
>>>> share in plain text in a file though.  Creating
>>>> /home/pi/.smbpasswd with the contents:
>>>> username=Test
>>>> password=password
>>>> domain=somedomain
>>>> and chmod 600 isn't good enough.
>>>>
>>>> The password should be salted in this file even if it is password!
>>>>
>>>> Is there a simple way to use an smbpasswd file properly salted without
>>>> implementing a full samba server?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The proper tool that I know of is "smbpasswd" as an executable, which
>>> is part of the samba-common-bin package on my system (Debian).
>>>
>>> It may have dependencies which includes a full smb server (which I
>>> run), so this may not be helpful information.
>>>
>>> dafr
>>>
>>
>
>> I am most concerned about the password having to be in plaintext when
>> transmitted over the network.  Even if
>> there is a way without a full samba server deployment to have the
>> password sent in encrypted form over the
>> network, that would be great.  The server is probably the latest
>> incarnation of Windows server.  I don't
>> like the idea of having to have a Linux user for every Windows user
>> either.
>>
>
>
>
> Sure, I get that, and agree with the concerns. I was looking at the
> smbpasswd man page initially and this is why I think you want to use this
> utility:
>
>       "On a UNIX machine the encrypted SMB
>        passwords are usually stored in the smbpasswd(5) file."
>
> Now, the problem with the utility is that unless you do something fancy,
> you may have to be on the localhost where the share is exported to set /
> reset the password as a user. This may not be feasible in your situation
> unless there is a web interface that you can front smbpasswd with to allow
> users to change passwords.
>
> When mounting a share in a Windows VM on my Linux host, I have to auth
> with a pop-up window of user / pass to access the shared directory. I'm not
> sure if (and don't believe that) you have to have a Linux account for the
> Windows user. They are different password files, but my experience is also
> limited to a full samba server, so your needs may be more an issue than
> mine.
>
> dafr
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