Disagreeing is fine, and expected. But personal attacks do not help, and are not welcome. Cool down.
-Denis On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:45 PM Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote: > Rich explained it in nicer terms, but honestly. > > Mike, grow the fuck up. > internet access is how we communicate. You even sit there with an email > client, talking about how *bad technology is*. Do you even realize how much > hypocrisy you just regurgitated onto the internet? > > If you really feel that way, then stop using your computer. Honestly. > > And don't pull that shit in front of Linux users. The ONLY way to take > responsibilty for your OS is to download the source code. And you think we > don't need fast internet? > > It's ok, I don't need reliable and consistent access to my source code repo > for openssl. Someone else can compile SSL encryption for me. The encryption > is sure, they promised ;-) > > You act like someone who has assistants managing your security updates so > that YOU don't have to care. > > Have you ever run apt-get update? > Have you ever downloaded an OS? > Have you ever taken responsibility for your Digital success, or failure? > Have you ever used a computer? > > or are you just another one of those russian/chinese/iranian trolls that > pose as American citizens? > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:36 PM Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 12:28 PM Mike C. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> "If Roseburg can do it , Portland should have accomplished this too! > >> The > >> only thing affecting this lack of Fiber in PDX is entrenched interests > - > >> " > >> > >> I'll entertain this a bit as I think about it a lot. As I suspect you > >> well know, rarely is anything that simple. Over the years, through a > >> lot of social justice activism and volunteer work I've gotten to know > >> a lot of non-tech, every day, common people. > >> > >> Most of them just want to be able to use the internet when they need > >> to and don't think about things like bandwidth price, security, > >> infrastructure, etc. My point is there's not a real public driver. > >> People are concerned with all sorts of other issues like jobs, money, > >> housing, healthcare, climate change, etc. > >> > >> Necessity is the mother of invention. There are countries who are > >> farther behind the U.S. in industry and economic power that have fiber > >> run all over their land that provides high-speed internet to almost > >> everyone. They didn't have existing infrastructure to deal with and > >> the time was right for them to do it. > >> > >> The state of the internet in PDX frustrates me too but there are a lot > >> of other things happening in Portland and in the greater PNW that I'm > >> much more concerned about. > >> > >> Maybe I'm just an aged out techie turned hippy but I often think that > >> high speed internet & technology does way more damage to humanity, > >> civilization and our shared life support system and doesn't really > >> deliver all the good that it promises and people willing shell out > >> lots of their hard earned cash for. > >> > > > > > > What the Fuck? > > > > Have you ever downloaded a Linux OS? > > Do people just hand you pre-burnt install DVD's? > > > > You act like someone who has never touched a Linux system in his life. > > Your ignorance is matched only by your arrogance. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
