Hopefully it lets me change the subject to start a new conversation. You bring up some interesting points but it's very off topic.

On 10/21/19 6:34 AM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
In one of the weekend posts you learned how to obtain disk and partition
uuid - is there any technical reason to not use uuid to mount your external
drive?

Uuids definitely do not change unless you change it intentionally.

I do not want to sound weary, but this topic repeats on this list regularly
- the solution is always simple and stable - use uuid to mount disk or
partition.

You are correct, but for the wrong reasons. Every time this issue comes up people move on before fully solving the root cause. Rather than permanently fix the problems that occur, many people are willing to cover it up with short term solutions.


There is a sequence of steps used to troubleshoot a given issue. Sometimes when running through these steps, you may appear to have "fixed" the problem, when all you did was poke it to do what you wanted. A good example is one of the Ubuntu users on this thread who has mounts his USB drives in /media. It's a bad thing to do, but since it appears to work when he sets it up, he never stops to think that it might cause problems later.


"Have you restarted your computer?" Rebooting your computer is a troubleshooting step to isolate the problem, it should NEVER be the solution to your problem. And yet, we continuously see people spend their day rebooting their computer every time something doesn't work, because that was the "solution" to their original problem.


Someone, somewhere famously said - Those who cannot learn from history are
doomed to repeat it.

This applies to both Users and Developers. In addition to the recurring USB HDD issues, I've also noticed recurring problems with the troubleshooting advice given to solve said USB HDD issues.


At this point, people are operating under false assumptions about how USB works, and they keep doing things that complicate the problem. I work with USB storage devices as my day job. It's absolutely insane how many false facts are flying around. My own company is advertising USB 10Gbps speeds for a SATA 6Gbps SSD. USB is already confusing enough, why add more stupid?


For what it's worth, my opinion here is based on my job as a Support Technician. My job involves taking the problems user encounter, and comparing them to the devices designed by Engineers. Yes, sometimes the end user is just dumb, but sometimes the engineer is the one being dumb. It is very difficult for a less savvy user to differentiate between good advice, and bad advice.

Fun Fact: Developers sit between the keyboard and chair just like users do. P.E.B.K.A.C.


We expect marketing teams to lie about their products, but when a developer or engineer gives bad advice, it is incredibly damaging. Ask yourself if the advice you give on this list, or any other forum actually results in solutions, or if you are just adding noise and confusion. Because those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it ;-)


This rant brought to you by the 40 minutes it took for my work PC to install windows updates. LOL

-Ben



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