The day after tomorrow is a new year. Let's all resolve to try to be better humans in the next decade.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 9:21 PM Denis Heidtmann <[email protected]> wrote: > I wonder if your angry response was intended to accomplish something: get a > change in behavior or an improvement in the usefulness of this mail list? > If so, do you think you were successful? If that was not your intention, > what was the purpose? > > -Denis > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:50 PM Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Which is why I asked where to direct concerns. Public complaints always > get > > clipped to a sound-bite. Next thing you know there's a wall of text > flying > > right past the intended point. > > > > I work in tech support. I don't succeed there because I disregard the > > concerns of end users. I take the time to read and understand what is > being > > asked and give pointed suggestions to solve problems. This is why it > sucks > > so much when someone walks all over my response, leads by admitting they > > have no idea what they are talking about, and then proceeds to wash out > any > > sense of reality. > > > > Is he doing it intentionally? No probably not. But any attempt to set out > > what is or isn't real is met with the same assumption that his age makes > > him right. IMNSHO that is not a polite way to engage in conversation in > any > > group. I do consider it abusive, and there are multiple people here who > do > > that consistently. I'll raise the issue privately. If the powers that be > > decide that PLUG is a group of old white men bragging about the decades > of > > experience they have in fortran, then maybe I should move on. My > protonmail > > account is far more peaceful than gmail anyway, I'll just move important > > contacts over there and continue with my remaining 70 years. > > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:49 PM Mike C. <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Truth is, I don't care if other PLUG members think I'm out of line. > > > > > > > > > > You seem like a fairly reasonable person and you were personally > helpful > > to > > > me a few years ago when I was embarking on a Linux DevOps internship. > > > > > > This is a Linux USER community. > > > > > > It includes people who work or have worked in IT with a wide array of > > > knowledge and experience. It also includes hobbyists, home users and > > > sole-proprietors who use Linux for work. > > > > > > One of these users and sole proprietors has worked as an environmental > > > consultant since 1993 and not "building a floating island of garbage in > > the > > > pacific ocean." > > > > > > I consider Rich a friend through side conversations we've had over the > > past > > > 10 years I've been on the PLUG list. > > > > > > There are quite a few good people in the PLUG community who freely give > > of > > > their time, experience and knowledge be it at the Clinic, the talks and > > in > > > the community such as Personal Telco and working for municipal > broadband. > > > > > > - Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PLUG mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PLUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
