The Mint guys made a concentrated effort to make it user friendly recently and have done a great job IMHO. Easy enough for Grandma to use, and almost easy enough for her to install if someone gives her an install DVD or USB stick. I'm very impressed with it and busy sending USB sticks to reluctant friends. This is finally ready for the 'mass market'.

https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=303

Don't know about the GTK2 apps...

-Dave


On 3/24/2023 1:38 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
I noticed that Free Geek switched to Mint for those PC's they sell a while ago.

Screenshots of mint mate seem to be a mix of win 10, win 11 and MacOS desktop 
stirred together with a strong win10 motif

But the $64k question can you still run older GTK2.0 apps on the desktop?

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of W7DAL
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 1:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu MATE LTS 3 years vs 5 for non-LTS

Try*Linux Mint Mate* latest version. They have finally made Linux user friendly 
to the point I'm comfortable recommending it to non-tekkie friends. I've been 
following Linux from the earliest days.

Good Luck!

-Dave


On 3/24/2023 12:43 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
I tried transitioning from Scientific Linux to Redhat LTS (not "L"
sadly).  That went away.

Then I tried using Ubuntu Mate 20.04 LTS (horrid startup behaviors,
but 22.04 is worse).  I get this email today:

---------------------
As of 30 April 2023 Ubuntu MATE 20.04 LTS has reached EOL (End of
Life) and is no longer supported.

Being a long term release (LTS), official Ubuntu flavors are only
supported for **3 years**, as opposed to Ubuntu's 5 years.  This means
MATE components of your system will no longer receive updates after
today, but foundational components will continue to receive security
updates from Ubuntu.
---------------------

Hrm.  In Ubuntu-land, LTS long term support means less
time supported.   And today is April 30.

So, sandwiched between way too many non-software engineering tasks,
I'm transitioning to Debian Mate.
So far, Debian is pain relief.

No promise of LTS, but upgrades seem effortless and the dancing
paperclips and snaps and gesture GUI are absent.
Smaller RAM footprint, therefore I can keep using my "tall-screen" 3x4
laptops for their principal function, reading and writing A and A4
format documents.

We'll see how this goes.  I fear that gesture GUI (which requires
steady hands, no tremor) will eventually take over the Linux desktop,
so I may have less than a decade to complete
important-to-the-world-IMHO keyboard-driven computing and writing
tasks.

Sigh.  The world will not end with a bang, instead a "tweet".

Keith L.

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