On Sat, Sep 16, 2023, at 11:02, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 14:10:31 -0700
> John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com> dijo:
>
> >On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 13:37:15 -0700
> >wes <p...@the-wes.com> dijo:
> >
> >>On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Jason Jordan <joh...@gmx.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>> Normally release is done with the Right-Ctrl key, but if you're in
> >>> the host and the guest has exclusive control of mouse and keyboard,
> >>> you have no Right-Ctrl key
> >
> >>something is not right here. there should never be a case where the
> >>virtualbox guest can prevent virtualbox from acting on the "host key"
> >>(right-ctrl by default, as you noted). I don't have any specific
> >>suggestions at this point, but I would encourage you to peruse through
> >>the settings related to this to see if anything sticks out.
> >
> >I currently have three other virtual machines (all Windows), and in the
> >past I have had numerous others. I have never had this happen before,
> >so my guess is that you are right, 'something is not right here.' I
> >will poke at this more later today.
>
> OK, I have more information, although I don't have a fix. I thought the
> problem had just disappeared, but today it happened again. And while
> things were locked up I spent an hour trying different things to see if
> I could repair whatever was wrong. One of the things I discovered was
> that all running programs were still working, e.g., I was downloading a
> distro by qBittorrent, whose window was still on the screen, and I
> suddenly noticed numbers shifting as the download continued. In
> qBittorrent I tried moving around inside the window with the tab key,
> moving to different buttons to click on and it worked, except clicking
> failed. Eventually I discovered that the keyboard was fully functional
> unless I tried to minimize or maximize a window, or start or stop a
> program, or get to a terminal. The mouse cursor was working fine, but
> no clicks were possible with any of the keys or scroll wheel. At the
> end I came to the conclusion that what had gone wrong was that the
> window manager had been killed. On the net via my phone I read about
> key commands to restart the window manager, but none of them worked.
>
> I also discovered that it only happens when I minimize the window that
> is holding the Debian guest OS. I hadn't done this for a couple days,
> which is why I thought that the problem was resolved, but today I did it
> again, and sure enough, instantly I had no window manager. And since I
> never found a solution I'm still stuck using the power button.
>
> Well, at least I've made some progress. And now I can easily replicate
> the problem for testing purposes.
John, I’m sorry to hear that happened. If I had relevant expert tease, our
gladly help. But I’m glad that you found some more details. It is progress
toward a fix.
