And to both Nicholas and Jonathan[1]: When Hans mentions his degrees and pursuits, it was not to brag or lord them over others. It was to dispel Jonathan's claim that Hans was "only" a sysadmin (which *was* out of line).
My initial reading of Jonathan's comeback, "So you're a sysadmin, and an academic" gave me a flavor of "Oh yeah, like /academics/ qualifies you! That doesn't equate to real experience...", which is why I threw in the expert coder and Ruby bigot (which I know Jonathan respects) bits. Once again, it was *not* to brag or lord it over others, but to demonstrate that we are indeed qualified to comment on practical software engineering practices. Jacob Fugal .-----------------------------------. | This has been a P.L.U.G. mailing. | | Don't Fear the Penguin. | | IRC: #utah at irc.freenode.net | `-----------------------------------'
