On Dec 14, 2007 10:43 PM, Dave Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One word: J2EE. > The Sun marketing machine has done its job so well that everyone wants a > ticket on the enterprise choo-choo train. And those jobs, for the
Sun's marketing is horrid. Java EE is marketed by IBM, Oracle, BEA, JBoss/Redhat, and Sun. Of the major players, Sun has the smallest Java EE market share. Java EE is fairly well marketed, but we have IBM, BEA, and JBoss to thank for that -- not Sun. Sun has been doing a recent push for OpenJDK, OpenSolaris, Glassfish, and NetBeans 6 that's been refreshingly good, but in the past their marketing has always sucked. Your point is valid, but I just wanted to point out that Sun's marketing isn't a significant reason for current J2EE adoption. > record, are paying a heck of a lot more than most other programming > jobs. By my recollection, it's been that way for about 5 years. > Personally, I'm not a fan of J2EE, but that's another topic. J2EE was revolutionary when it was released, but its short comings were quickly identified and avoided. Most "J2EE" applications really only employ a small subset of the J2EE feature set. The Java Community Process has fixed these short comings, and the latest JEE (notice that the "2" has been dropped) is pure candy. Prior to JEE (aka J2EE 1.5) being released, the gap was filed by OSS projects like Spring and Hibernate. So, I think that most Java developers would chime in and agree with you saying that they weren't fans of J2EE either. > By the way, my company pays top dollar for programmers to come use their > skills in whatever-the-heck language they think works best for the job > (provided it's not Java, wink). Why purposely avoid Java? -Bryan /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
