On 04/12/2010 11:49 AM, Corey Edwards wrote:
Steven Alligood wrote:
ROFL.

It should be illegal to put up advertising billboards, just because you
don't like them?

How about commercials on TV?  Let's make those illegal as well, how dare
they put advertising in my shows?

What about the ads on the back of the frozen pizza you bought at
Smiths?  How outrageous.

The only thing I see as UnAmerican here is the limiting of people making
money with completely legal methods.
Your strawmen aren't completely accurate analogies to how the Internet
works. I'd say it's more like the phone company interrupting a phone
call to bring you a sponsored message. Or the mailman slipping
advertising into your letters. There has always been an unspoken
understanding that packets, like phone calls or letters, will be
delivered as-is and not modified in process.


Actually, my analogies would be more like dialing a wrong number and getting advertising (don't think they wouldn't do it if they could figure out how) or the post office bringing advertising along with your mail (um, they actually do that).

The original complaint was Sprint redirecting your dns to theirs and still giving you all the real sites out there, but anything that didn't lookup would give you an advertisement. Which isn't much different than all the SEOs out there grabbing up any and all domains that sound normal or are typos of normal and showing advertising. Which also happens.

I am pretty sure Sprint doesn't actually insert ads in to the sites you go to. Well, at least not without that site getting money from Sprint.

In fact, the same thing applies to Comcast and blocking any and all
ports that they deem abusive.
Same thing with the phone or letter analogy. If the postmaster knew
there was a bomb in your letter, he wouldn't deliver it. Those are
exceptional cases and I would suggest that clear public policies about
what they consider abusive behavior and what they will do about it would
be appropriate.
But the post office can make those rules on whatever criteria they want without ever consulting the customer. Same goes for Comcast; they can, and should, make any rules that are in their own best interest, and that of their stockholders.

  If their business model precludes your
torrents, then find another ISP.   And don't argue that you cannot; the
Internet is NOT a basic human right, nor is TV, cable, or even frozen
pizza.
And yet of all those examples, Internet is by far the least regulated.
Just because something is not a basic human right doesn't mean we
shouldn't have standards. There is not enough competition for the market
to simply sort out all these problems.


So, we need more regulation because it has helped all those other markets? Back to your example, regulation has made the phone service so much better than it was before?

The only thing that made telco costs come down, and fees lower has been the introduction of competition (aka, VoIP providers). Regulation actually raised prices and lowered the quality of service.

-Steve

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