Correction and clarification below:

On Friday January 14 2011 18:06:44 Lonnie Olson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Richard Esplin
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the explanation about iPhoto.
> >
> > Storing information about a file in someplace other than within the file is 
> > destined to fail over long periods of time.
> >
> > A friend of mine pointed out that iPhoto and other applications strip the 
> > metadata from the image files and store them in an external db for 
> > performance reasons. He said that the iPhoto export function reinserts the 
> > metadata on export. If there was some setting that would make this the 
> > default behavior (regardless of performance) so that I don't have to do it 
> > on every change to every file, then it would meet my needs.
> >
> > I don't mind it using a cache of the metadata for searching. But when I 
> > enter content I insist that it gets inserted into the file and not hidden 
> > somewhere else. Any other behavior is just a waste of time, as far as 
> > archiving goes.
> >
> > Any ideas on how to get iPhoto (or anything else) to do this?
> 
> Actually that is not true at all.  iPhoto does not strip any existing
> metadata from the files you import.  That is completely false.  In
> fact, any modifications made using iPhoto are done to a separate copy,
> while the original file is retained 100% intact.

Strip is the wrong word. He was saying what you are saying. Ingest or cache 
would be better words.

> I agree that keeping metadata inside the file is the best case
> scenario.  I would like to find a photo organizer that is standards
> based, easy to use, and full of features.  Digikam sounds interesting,
> I might try it.
> 
> However, I really like using iPhoto.  It works well.  Of course I
> can't simply move all my metadata around to other programs without
> some custom data extraction, export, and import.  But I have yet to
> see any two programs that can easily move *all* my meta data around
> easily.
> I believe the problem is in the metadata itself.  Some applications
> have special features whose metadata is difficult or not supported in
> EXIF (eg. Faces).  To me, as long as I can get access to the metadata
> using easily available tools/formats and have an enjoyable/easy usage,
> I will be happy.  At least for now... until I can find the Holy Grail
> photo app, like you are looking for.
> 
> --lonnie

Thanks for the insight. You always have very informed input. I appreciate your 
contributions.

My "good-enough-for-now" is a photo app that only allows me to enter data that 
is storeable as part of standard metadata. I understand that means a reduction 
in features, but I'm too lazy to enter tagging information / comments if it 
isn't going to stay around forever (or a reasonable approximation thereof).

Thanks,

Richard

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