On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Michael Torrie <[email protected]> wrote:
> journald can certainly work in conjunction with syslog.  In fact any
> enterprise distro is probably required to have a normal syslog for audit
> purposes (RHEL7 does by default, and it also has journald).  journald
> certainly does things that syslog does not, such as allowing
> fine-grained logging and debugging from the very start of init.  I think
> the idea of journal is a good one; I just wish they'd use an on-disk
> format that wasn't an opaque binary dump; perhaps this will change in
> the future.  But like I say, syslog is still available, even if it's not
> on by default in distros like Fedora.  Some people compare journald with
> the Windows event log and viewer, but this is rather ignorant I think.

Yes, I understand all of that.  I object to the requirement to either
run both (for reasons you mentioned), or suffer with limited options.
I personally would rather replace journald with my choice of logging
system only.

Granted, I understand this is just a nitpick, but it's a valid
concern.  It's only one, fairly small, extra service to run.  I'll get
over it.  The benefits of systemd still, so far, outweigh the
drawbacks.

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