Hi!

Inguz, thanks again for your efforts - and all for free! I love open
source! I hope my small efforts can contribute in some way to the
improvement of your plugin.

I got the revised plugin today and it certainly works well with
SoftSqueeze, so I have now re-retired my SqueezeBox (I'll find some use
for that one eventually).

The sound quality improved marginally, probably due to the better
transport (Lynx Two vs. SqueezeBox), but not a lot. The main problem is
still there. I've done some more listening and the way I would describe
the sound is:

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Bass - boomy (flabby, loose), where it used to be warm, distinct, very
precise, very low.

My loudspeakers are Quad 909's (electrostats) + one Rel Stadium I
subwoofer. The sub is connected to both power amplifier outputs and I
suppose mixes the signal somehow. I've set the sub to kick in at almost
the lowest frequency possible, to avoid too much interference with the
Quads. I know the Quads are supposed to be full range, but I still
found that adding the sub improves the bass so I stubbornly keep it for
now. Not sure whether this has something to do with the funny bass
response after filtering.

One suspiscion: Maybe the mic, the ECM8000 is unreliable at very low
frequencies. Looking at the recorded wavefile, there is very low
amplitude in the low end of the spectrum and I'm not totally convinced
that this is the truth. The normal bass response is very deep (maybe
due to the sub) and precise. If the microphone gets this wrong, then of
course the filter will try to "enhance" the bass and it will go all
boomy?

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Midrange - not sure.

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Treble - "cut off" maybe. It's the same sort of difference as when
comparing a normal CD to a Super Audio (SACD) recording. The SACD sound
is often described as "airy", "wider", "opened up" etc - all very loose
terms, but I agree. I still don't bother much with SACD's. The
difference is there, but compared to an upsampled CD, it's not enough
to be worth the hassle (I would prefer to rip SACD's and play them from
the hard disk but due to SoftSqueeze issues that cannot be done, so
listening to a SACD means actually getting my butt out of the chair to
put a plastic disk into the transport...almost forgot how to do
that...).

The correction filter adds the same sort of difference (downwards) only
many times the size, so much that it gets very audible. This is what I
mean with "tunnel-sound".

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I've posted my measurement wavefiles to Inguz as I strongly suspect
them to be funny (I did a few but they all look very similar). Looking
at the recorded wavefile, the amplitude in the high end of the spectrum
is much higher than the midrange so I suppose the filter tries to
"correct" this by suppressing the high end. However, that makes the
sound go "tunnelly" and it sounds all wrong.

The reason I want room correction is not connected to the high or the
low ends of the spectrum, those sound fine to me as they are. I have a
few bad resonances in the midrange though which are really annoying and
I can't use physical room correction here due to its negative WAF.


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CarlOtto
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