bpa wrote: 
> I think LMS maybe too old as 7.5 is very very old.
> 
> 

I wondered, but BBCiPlayer 1.3.x seemed to work.  If, indeed, that turns
out to be the case, do you recall how or whether I could return to
BBCPlayer 1.3.x*, which I think I had before this update?

bpa wrote: 
> 
> 
> Your descirption of previous use is very confusing (128kbps MP3 , R3 320
> is probably AAC) but then you mention iPlayer  - did you use BBCiPlayer
> or not  and did you have proiblemn befroe with BBCiPlayer plugin ?
> 
> 

bpa, apologies for the confusion.  We have (and had) two ways of playing
BBC audio on our SBS.  The 1st is the SBS as shipped by Logitech, which
comes with an Internet Radio menu with entries such as 'local', 'world',
etc.  Using that, selecting 'World', then 'National', then 'BBC R4',
gives us a Radio 4 live steam at 128kbps - I didn't notice the coding. 
Similarly, that system provides BBC R3 at 320 kbps, and I did notice
that was AAC.  I mention this test only to show that SBS, and the Touch,
seem to be operating fine with our network LAN and with our
connectivity.

The 2nd method we used to listen to BBC was using the BBCiPlayer
plug-in, as created by Triode and with additional work-arounds and
development by yourself.  Until this upgrade to 1.5.2, we used v
1.3.something - it may have been 1.3.3 but I'm not sure and it isn't
there now - but there was an asterisk by the last digit, eg 1.3.3*.  I
installed it around September or October this year, I think, following
some work-around advice you kindly offered the community when the BBC
switched to HLS and DASH.

Those were the two methods I confusingly described, sorry about that. 
The Logitech-supplied system works, and I think uses opml.radiotime, if
I was able to catch that correctly as it fleetingly passed the screen. 
The previous BBCiPlayer plug-in version 1.3.something also worked, but
did not have the 'DASH>HLS>MP3' choices - it only had 'HLS>MP3>Flash'
(?).  I had been following your recent advice to another user in the
General Discussion forum, and I had the impression that we should be
using the newer version, and we should be using DASH, so I set up the
repository and installed it.  My problem is with the BBCiPlayer v 1.5.2
that I installed yesterday. after deciding to update to it.

> Something very strange is happening with your system.
> What sort of processor and memory on LSM server  ?
> Change delay to "no delay".
> Does Touch play AAC natively as per LMS Filetype settings ?

I agree it is strange.  Have you ever seen anyone else report this '23
mins delay' text added to a title?
I think the processor is Celeron something, 1GB main memory.  I'd be a
bit surprised if the SBS was struggling - it isn't doing anything else.

The file format entry for AAC reads:

AAC - Native
FLAC - faad/flac
MP3 - faad/lame
PCM - faad

There is no bitrate limiting on the Touch

I'll try a test wih 'no delay' and report back.

> 
> What is this "alternate standby link and DNS server"  - do you have a
> strange network setup ?
> DNS is not an issue so no need to play around - please set everything
> back to default (messing around with Touch DNS may be asking for
> trouble)
> 

We only have multiple uplinks.  The alternate uplink is Satellite
(SATCOM bidirectional) and its network latency is appalling.  On
transactions requiring multiple, sequential DNS lookups, the delays
caused by DNS alone can be a couple of seconds and we find this is
usually sufficient to knock over any real-time services.  We try to make
sure that time-sensitive equipments and applications only transact over
our terrestrial uplink, including (of course) any DNS queries they make.
I checked the Touch specifically for this, this morning, and noticed
that, though its gateway setting was on the terrestrial uplink, its DNS
resolver was using the standby Satellite system.  It was a configuration
entry that I made when first setting up the Touch to use a
manually-entered static IP - I entered the wrong resolver address - and
I realised I should have used our main resolver, and I've corrected it. 
I haven't altered the Touch's DNS mechanism, at all; merely told it the
correct place to go to resolve domain addresses.

bpa, thank you very much for thinking about this.  I think it is
strange.  That you do, as well, suggests to me that perhaps there
haven't previously been any reports of this strange addition to the
playing title "23 mins delay".

Regards, Atlantic


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