I like your suggestions. One concern I still have is with the time
field. If you use 'time' as a default value for a time field, the user
will still not know that a colon is required in the mask. If you can
change the validation message for that field to indicate that a colon in
required in the mask, then that would help, I think. A lot of systems
out there use 24 hour/military times and a lot of users are used to
entering data that way. If you don't tell them somehow what the time
format should look like, I think we can expect phone calls ;)
Jeff
Adam Churvis wrote:
We've entered the suppressTime and validation display items as bugs to be
fixed in the next release.
I'd like to get everyone's input on the date control masking issue that Jeff
brought up. How does this sound for a solution:
1) We pre-populate the day field with the word "day", the year field with
the word "year", and the time field with the word "time".
2) If the date control (cf_DisplaySearchDateTimeControl) is on a search form
and the user doesn't touch the control before he performs a search, then it
won't matter that there are values in those fields because the value of that
control isn't added to the search criteria unless the user chooses a month
from the month select menu.
3) If the user does choose a month from the search date control but leaves
the default values in the fields when he clicks Display Search, client-side
validation will prompt the user to enter proper values for those fields.
4) If the date control (cf_DisplayDateTimeControl) is for a required field
on an add or edit form and the user doesn't edit the default values for
those fields, client-side validation will prompt the user to enter proper
values for those fields.
5) If the date control is for an optional field on an add or edit form and
the user doesn't edit the default values for those fields, then it won't
matter that there are values in those fields because the value of that
control isn't added to the insert or update clause unless the user chooses a
month from the month select menu.
6) We add JavaScript to the date controls such that if those default "day",
"year", or "time" values are present, they will disappear as soon as the
user clicks in that field.
Let me hear your feedback, and we'll make it happen.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Fleitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:19 AM
Subject: [plum] DisplaySearchDateTimeControl not working
I have a list with a nested search form that includes a datetime column
named LogCreated. I would like the user to be able to filter the list
against that column.
<cf_DisplaySearchDateTimeControl column="LogCreated" label="Log Entry
Date Filter" type="datetime" default="" searchByRange="No"
suppresstime="Yes">
I am getting back 'You did not enter any search criteria' in the list
display, even though there is valid data. I am using the latest new tags.
The tag works if the suppressTime attribute is 'No'. If it is
suppressed, it doesn't work.
Also, the control layout is very confusing, i.e., there are no visual
masking clues to tell a user what they are supposed to enter. I get the
month pulldown, but the day and month columns will be confusing. If I
enter a time of 1000 AM (should be '10:00:00') I get a cryptic qForms
error message saying 'Please specify a valid 'LogCreated_criteriatime'
That is definately going to confuse users. The validation message
should match the column label.
Suggest you place a formatting mask example at the end of the column, or
some visual cue. Cool control, but will cause headaches with users
unless they know how to use it properly.
Jeff
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Tekquest, Ltd
Integrated Digital Solutions
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Tekquest, Ltd
Integrated Digital Solutions
http://www.tekquest.com
866.472.5868
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