What do you think of the other suggestion I had responding to Angel's input?

Respectfully,

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Fleitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [plum] DisplaySearchDateTimeControl not working


> I like your suggestions.  One concern I still have is with the time
> field.  If you use 'time' as a default value for a time field, the user
> will still not know that a colon is required in the mask.  If you can
> change the validation message for that field to indicate that a colon in
> required in the mask, then that would help, I think.  A lot of systems
> out there use 24 hour/military times and a lot of users are used to
> entering data that way.  If you don't tell them somehow what the time
> format should look like, I think we can expect phone calls ;)
>
> Jeff
>
> Adam Churvis wrote:
>
> >We've entered the suppressTime and validation display items as bugs to be
> >fixed in the next release.
> >
> >I'd like to get everyone's input on the date control masking issue that
Jeff
> >brought up.  How does this sound for a solution:
> >
> >1) We pre-populate the day field with the word "day", the year field with
> >the word "year", and the time field with the word "time".
> >
> >2) If the date control (cf_DisplaySearchDateTimeControl) is on a search
form
> >and the user doesn't touch the control before he performs a search, then
it
> >won't matter that there are values in those fields because the value of
that
> >control isn't added to the search criteria unless the user chooses a
month
> >from the month select menu.
> >
> >3) If the user does choose a month from the search date control but
leaves
> >the default values in the fields when he clicks Display Search,
client-side
> >validation will prompt the user to enter proper values for those fields.
> >
> >4) If the date control (cf_DisplayDateTimeControl) is for a required
field
> >on an add or edit form and the user doesn't edit the default values for
> >those fields, client-side validation will prompt the user to enter proper
> >values for those fields.
> >
> >5) If the date control is for an optional field on an add or edit form
and
> >the user doesn't edit the default values for those fields, then it won't
> >matter that there are values in those fields because the value of that
> >control isn't added to the insert or update clause unless the user
chooses a
> >month from the month select menu.
> >
> >6) We add JavaScript to the date controls such that if those default
"day",
> >"year", or "time" values are present, they will disappear as soon as the
> >user clicks in that field.
> >
> >Let me hear your feedback, and we'll make it happen.
> >
> >Respectfully,
> >
> >Adam Phillip Churvis
> >Member of Team Macromedia
> >
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> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Jeff Fleitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "[email protected]"
> ><[email protected]>
> >Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:19 AM
> >Subject: [plum] DisplaySearchDateTimeControl not working
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>I have a list with a nested search form that includes a datetime column
> >>named LogCreated.   I would like the user to be able to filter the list

> >>against that column.
> >>
> >><cf_DisplaySearchDateTimeControl column="LogCreated" label="Log Entry
> >>Date Filter" type="datetime" default="" searchByRange="No"
> >>suppresstime="Yes">
> >>
> >>I am getting back 'You did not enter any search criteria' in the list
> >>display, even though there is valid data.  I am using the latest new
tags.
> >>
> >>The tag works if the suppressTime attribute is 'No'.  If it is
> >>suppressed, it doesn't work.
> >>
> >>Also, the control layout is very confusing, i.e., there are no visual
> >>masking clues to tell a user what they are supposed to enter. I get the
> >>month pulldown, but the day and month columns will be confusing.   If I
> >>enter a time of 1000 AM (should be '10:00:00') I get a cryptic qForms
> >>error message saying 'Please specify a valid 'LogCreated_criteriatime'
> >>That is definately going to confuse users.  The validation message
> >>should match the column label.
> >>
> >>Suggest you place a formatting mask example at the end of the column, or
> >>some visual cue.  Cool control, but will cause headaches with users
> >>unless they know how to use it properly.
> >>
> >>Jeff
> >>
> >>-- 
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> >>
> >>Jeff Fleitz
> >>Tekquest, Ltd
> >>Integrated Digital Solutions
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> >>_______________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- 
> _______________________________
>
> Jeff Fleitz
> Tekquest, Ltd
> Integrated Digital Solutions
> http://www.tekquest.com
> 866.472.5868
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