From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bill Brown
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PNEWS-L] God's Will - Moderation (extra terrestrial?)
On Jul 28, 2007, at 1:49 PM, Andy McCracken wrote:
> Kamran:"scientific facts that these laws are
> non-discerning and only act as the superstructure of the physical
> universe
> and thus could not have in any way put the information-based
> nano-machinery
> of life together "
>
> Andy M:
> This is the fallacy of thinking that what you don't yet understand
> scientifically can only be explained by invoking God.
>
>
BB:
i.e., the argument from ignorance, correct? Gotta gap; cram yer god in
it.
"Science offers us an explanation of how complexity (the difficult)
arose out of simplicity (the easy). The hypothesis of God offers no
worthwhile explanation for anything, for it simply postulates what we
are trying to explain."
Richard Dawkins
Kamran: God-of-the-gaps would be a relevant sound bite if you could actually
tell us what gaps you are referring to because I am certainly not seeing any
gaps. There are no gaps in our knowledge that life, in its foundation as a
living cell, is a fully-packaged, multi-component, information-based,
nano-technological, self-replicating ship of the complexity of the
proverbial Star Ship Enterprise. The false observation about the occurrence
of evolution was made at a time when Charles Darwin had no clue about the
inner architecture and complexity of a living cell and referred to it as a
mere blob. Under those circumstances, declaring evolution as the process by
which life transforms, would have been like commenting on the seismic
properties of a building without knowing the material it is built. Talk
about a GAP!!!!
Then you have the properties of natural forces: i.e gravitational force,
electromagnetic force, weak nuclear force, and strong nuclear force. Are
there any gaps in your knowledge that these forces act without discretion
and would not know where to begin with in putting the software-hardware
package of life together. Have you ever know the gravitational force
applying itself while being mindful of consequences. Do you feel that a
"START" coding at the beginning of a genetic message on an mRNA and a "STOP"
coding at the end of the message are inscribed by these forces acting on
their own? Is it sensible for you to accept Mr. Dawkin's implication that it
is only a matter of further time and scientific work to eventually show that
natural forces are an intelligent cooperative? So you may say well let's
not talk about abiogenesis. Fine I'll leave it to you to cover your tracks
concerning a "no-Creator" foundation for the story of biological evolution.
But that simplification still won't resolve your challenge that the
machinery of life has no mechanism to evolve even remotely in the scope
attributed to it under the so called "theory of evolution." The prokaryotic
cell of 4 billion years ago (just about two hundred million years after the
cooling of the earth) is still with us today, and, apart from how this
technological marvel came to existence, nothing revealed by science about
the inner architecture of this cell shows any evidence or plausible pathway
or instrumentation about how this Prokaryotic cell may have re-engineered
itself to form Eukaryotic cells which came some two to three billion years
after the original cells had manufactured and pumped sufficient oxygen into
the earth's atmosphere. Then there is Zero evidence showing, and much to
the contrary, that a cell can independently and autonomously re-engineer its
internal software and hardware to enter into a cooperative and specialize
arrangement with billions and trillions of other cells to form living
organisms and something like vertebrate species. Not to mention that of
course there is ZERO fossil record for the gradual introduction of these
species into existence before they somehow popped up during the biological
big bang of the Cambrian era.
Maybe ever since the post-renaissance scientific boom in the West, every
scientific observation or theory was eagerly deployed to score a point
against the institution of religion which had sown so much conflict among
people and set societies back from progress. But our judgment today need not
be compromised with that obsession, because for us recognizing a
transcendental Maker is not tantamount to accepting the man-made
prescriptions oversold throughout human history as messages from the divine.
Kamran
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