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> On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:51:50AM +0200, Artur Bergman wrote:
>> 01-06-27 07.54, skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] p� [EMAIL PROTECTED] f�ljande:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23-Jun-2001 Artur Bergman wrote:
>>>> I don't see how this is relevant.
>>> This is relevant as it's a more global way of viewing all the little
>>> problems we are bumping into.  These object interactions should be
>>> implemented on top of the POE, but we don't have the necessary hooks.
>> 
>> Agreed, but it isn't relevant to the technical discussion.
> 
> It is. Assuming that the global approach is better and will work in the near
> future we should keep it in mind and try not to have to change everything
> again later when it is about to work.
> A good approach with object associations(relations, interactions),
> namespaces will lead to some kind of component environment. this helps a lot
> for bigger and even small applications and is thus relevant for the
> technology it is build upon.

I disagree, I am not talking about the object layer, I am talking about the
poe core, so there is no real need to discuss an object layer.

>> 
>>> However, your point about the object layer is well taken.  What you are
>>> saying is that if a Checkout needs a Cart (again with the e-commerce), POE
>>> shouldn't care.  However, if a session goes away, any objects it's using
>>> should also be cleared out.  In a perfect world, a smart _stop handler
>>> would be sufficient.  However, this requires annoying amounts of house
>>> keeping.
>>> 
>>> So, let's put all the object relationships elsewhere, and add hooks to POE
>>> that will tell us when objects "change", w/o object cooperation.  By
>>> "change", I mean create/delete but also "completed some task".
>> 
>> Aren't those hooks supposed to be in the object layer, as POE has no concept
>> of objects.
> 
> Sessions have most of  the properties objects have: aatributes, methods,
> inheritance, ...
> 
> but these monitoring features are probably useful, although quite low level :(
> 
> torvald
> 

Ok, could somone tell me, what do you people want to monitor. I am lost.

Artur

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