eeewww...yucky.  Sorry, I don't like that too much.  In my experience, 
thats the exact kind of theing that keeps you up at night until you 
conclude "I have no idea"

-andy

Dmitri Chtchourov wrote:

>He was showing it on the mac, but I am pretty sure it is written in Java, so
>it should run on Linux. The interesting thing about it is that it does not
>use JPDA, but inserts custom bytecodes into the classes that are being
>debugged. I asked about performance degradation, and the guy said that it is
>minimal. All the bytecode insertion is seemless too.
>
>Dmitri
>
>>Does it run on linux?
>>
>>Dmitri Chtchourov wrote:
>>
>>>>Did you get your 3+ grand out of it? (for me it would be more like 10 to
>>>>come from the east coast and stay out there)
>>>>
>>>It was only the registration (1,700) for me - I just stayed with friends
>>>(San Jose is only about 40 minutes from SF).  I've been talking a lot
>>>
>about
>
>>>Java out here, so my boss thought I should go and see whats new out there
>>>
>;)
>
>>>One of the more interesting products that I saw out there was a debugger
>>>
>>>from visicomp.com It logs all the calls in your program and after the
>>
>>>execution is finished, you can go back and retrace all the states. It can
>>>also do things like showing all the places where a particular function
>>>
>was
>
>>>called, search for particular value assignments e.t.c. - pretty neat. Its
>>>
>in
>
>>>Beta now but I talked to CTO and they are looking for testers ;) I
>>>
>thought
>
>>>some of you guys might be interested.
>>>
>>>Dmitri
>>>
>>>
>>>>-Andy
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 16:35, Dmitri Chtchourov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Somehow I don't think the big cats (and its probably better that way)
>>>>>>pay much attention to us poor poi people or maybe they'd have told you
>>>>>>just how excited about .NET we are at the jCalifornia-One :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>:)) I saw a couple of T-shirts that said: "C++ is my bosses average"
>>>>>There was a funny TV skit that Gosling a couple of other guys did where
>>>>>
>>>at
>>>
>>>>>the end
>>>>>Gosling rolled away on a Java-mobile and left a Bill Gates-looking guy
>>>>>
>>>who
>>>
>>>>>was waring a T-shirt
>>>>>that said ".not" on the front and "C-flat" on the back on the parking
>>>>>
>>>lot.
>>>
>>>>>The whole conference was not as technical as I would have liked it to
>>>>>
>>>be -
>>>
>>>>>mostly just introductions to *new* technologies like Jini, JMS and
>>>>>
>other
>
>>>>>Web-services related stuff and companies that had success using them.
>>>>>Performance increase due to new memory model and gc in 1.4 and 1.4.1
>>>>>
>and
>
>>>new
>>>
>>>>>IO were pretty big as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dmitri
>>>>>
>>>>>>-Andy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dmitri Chtchourov wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Marc wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Having become convinced by Andy that C# and .NET are the wave of th
>>>>>>>>>
>>>e
>>>
>>>>>>>>>future, I'm proposing that we switch poi development to C#.
>>>>>>>>>To the Jakarta community at large: will this affect our status as a
>>>>>>>>>Jakarta project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are
>>>>>>>>>eventually going to follow this same path ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Marc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+1 I can't wait to get cracking on this!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just came back from JavaOne...I thought I've heard something about
>>>>>>>this.... :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>http://www.superlinksoftware.com
>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound
>>>>Document
>>>>                           format to java
>>>>http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html
>>>>- fix java generics!
>>>>The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to
>>>>vote.
>>>>-Ambassador Kosh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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