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********** Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 17:13:19 -0500 Subject: Re: FC: ACLU feature on facecams in airports, DOD "Ferret" system From: "Wendy Leibowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The technology doesn't work, but isn't it less intrusive than a body search, or almost any other search to which we submit at borders and airports? There is a long line of cases about how intrusive border/airport searches must be, and the general consensus of the courts is: very. Remember we're also looking for drugs, so the guards can strip-search you and even hold you for hours or days (I believe) if they think you've swallowed drugs (you've got to go to the bathroom eventually). All in all, I don't understand the problem with face-cams at borders or airports. It affects only those whose pictures already appear in a database, and so the issue should be--who's in the database, not whether or not we use this unobtrusive technology. Wendy R. Leibowitz Legal Technology Columnist Editor, E-Filing Report 1140 23rd St. NW Washington, DC 20037 http://www.wendytech.com ********** Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 16:45:03 -0500 From: Barry Steinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: California's Oakland airport will use face-recognition software To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Declan, The news account of Oakland Airport's installation of Face Recognition Technology is not accurate in, at least one, respect. This is not the first installation at an airport. It has already been installed at the Fresno Airport and unlike Oakland, where the use will be limited to persons who have been arrested, the Face Recogntion system, which the Defense Department actually dubbed "Ferret", is or will be used on all passengers. Face recogntion will also be installed on a trial basis at Boston Logan and a full scale basis at Green Airport in Providence, Rhode Island. Barry Steinhardt ACLU ********** From: "Richard M. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: California's Oakland airport will use face-recognition software Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:09:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This particular face scanning system at the Oakland Airport sounds like it is going to be used to round up the "usual suspects" rather than to grab real terrorists: http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/011017/face_recognition_nab_1.html Imagis Technologies and Oakland (Calif.) Police Department Extend Biometric Facial Recognition Technology to Oakland International Airport "The installation at Oakland International is part of a US$2.65 million contract with Alameda County Sheriff's Department to provide a completely integrated law enforcement solution, including Imagis' ID-2000 and CABS Computerized Arrest and Booking System technology for common access to centralized images for arrestee verification, identification and processing. Users will use Imagis technology to track and identify known recidivists in the county-wide image database in an effort to fight crime and terrorism. Richard Smith ********** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
