Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:20:33 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Politech] Chapel Hill reconsiders red-light cameras [priv] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
my wife was one of the council persons who voted to oust the lights. Will Raymond is the hero here. there are a lot of stories out, but of particular interest to readers will be how ACS handled their astroturf campaign which is pretty well described in this article by Fiona Morgan http://indyweek.com/durham/current/triangles.htm
[a couple of interesting excerpts]
"When Councilwoman Dorothy Verkerk had an information session last week to defend Chapel Hill's red light camera system, she came armed with free videos, pencils, coasters, pens with plastic signal lights at the top, and posters featuring sports stars, free to all comers. Backing her up was the Washington-based public relations group that had produced all those freebies, the National Campaign to Stop Red Light Running, and Affiliated Computer Systems, the Dallas-based information technology firm that runs the cameras."
[if you were a stock holder in ACS, what would you say about this?]
"I don't care about making money," said Joe Clark, chief operating officer of ACS, when asked at a public meeting Saturday about the revenue ACS has collected from Chapel Hill tickets. "It's a safety program."
if politech readers would like more, we have plenty. the orchestrated show by acs and their flacks was amazing.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Politech] Chapel Hill reconsiders red-light X-Sent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 15:56:01 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.6.0-2_sol28
Many jursidictions have rejected red light cameras and photo radar. Most recently, the state of Hawaii rejected cameras after they were put in place for just a few months. Earlier than that, The New Jersey legislature banned them. The state of Alaska rejected them by referendum, court rulings and by a vote of the legislature.
In other words, a lot of jurisdictions have come to their senses.
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Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (admin) To: "'Declan McCullagh'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Politech] Chapel Hill reconsiders red-light cameras [priv] Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:12:54 -0500
>I've seen several Politech articles on RLCs. It >appears, at least if you believe ACS, that Chapel >Hill, NC is the first community to reject RLCs.
The State of NJ rejected the speed cameras I think it was in the early-mid 90's when the proposals were put forth and rejected. Not sure if the RLC's were ever considered. _______________________________________________ Politech mailing list Archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Moderated by Declan McCullagh (http://www.mccullagh.org/)
