Gaar,

As compared to WHICH bail-out? "Almost" only counts in hand grenades
and horseshoes lad.

On Nov 2, 5:10 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually holly...
>
> Had you bothered to LOOK, you would have found that they are in FACT
> very, very similar, if not almost "identical".
>
> On Nov 2, 7:43 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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> > gaar,
>
> > That would only be a viable comparison if the particulars of the
> > current "deal" were identical to the particulars and terms of whatever
> > "deals in the past" you happen to refer to. Wouldn't it?
>
> > On Nov 2, 8:58 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Such Deals, by the Government, have in fact produced "profits" for the
> > > Government, in the past.
>
> > > On Nov 2, 6:56 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > jgg,
>
> > > > Bull-fucking-shit, I said no such thing.
> > > > What collateral secures the "loan"? Was the stock "purchased" by the
> > > > govt. worth the amount of the "loan" at the time the "loan" was made?
>
> > > > On Nov 1, 12:17 pm, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > Hollywood after claiming I said Hitler-invented then denying you wrote
> > > > > it, little surprises me concerning your logic...  It is NOT a giveaway
> > > > > to the banks...  It is intended to be repay through rebuys of stock by
> > > > > the companies that the federal government now own.  They were given
> > > > > the stock by the companies for the "investment"...   So yes dear one,
> > > > > once again you seek to hype the story through mis characterization...
>
> > > > > On Oct 31, 10:34 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > Gaar,
>
> > > > > > We didn't? You mean it was like a "loan" or something?
> > > > > > Care to share with me what the repayment schedule is? Interest paid?
> > > > > > What are the late payment penalities? When do the repayments start?
> > > > > > What was given as collateral? I'll be fascinated to hear the 
> > > > > > details.
>
> > > > > > The mortgage company didn't "give" me the house I live in, so I have
> > > > > > all the things listed above.
>
> > > > > > On Oct 30, 9:11 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Good thing we just didn't "give" it to them then...
>
> > > > > > > Again, you ignorance on the matter notwithstanding.
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 30, 2:10 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Gaar,
>
> > > > > > > > Anyone who would give $700 billion plus to the financial 
> > > > > > > > instituions
> > > > > > > > is a socialist.
> > > > > > > > Your ignorance on the matter notwithstanding.
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 30, 2:56 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > Anyone whbo would use the Tax System to redistribute Wealth 
> > > > > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > Socialist.
>
> > > > > > > > > Your ignorance on the matter notwithstanding.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 30, 12:42 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > Gaar,
>
> > > > > > > > > > What socialist? There's no socialist running for POTUS.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 30, 1:18 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > Why does it not surprise me that you would prefer a 
> > > > > > > > > > > Socialist to an
> > > > > > > > > > > American War Hero?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Oh that's right...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > You're not American, and you aren't supposed to have a 
> > > > > > > > > > > Vote.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for letting us know this is just your opinion, as 
> > > > > > > > > > > a non-
> > > > > > > > > > > Citizen.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 30, 10:31 am, Weebop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I have written and re-written about three replies to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > your last post
> > > > > > > > > > > > and the more I wrote the more I realised that most of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > what you said
> > > > > > > > > > > > makes sense and most of what I was writing was based on 
> > > > > > > > > > > > my annoyance
> > > > > > > > > > > > of your choice of title for your original post more 
> > > > > > > > > > > > then the facts in
> > > > > > > > > > > > hand. And so I concede defeat on many of the points you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > raise but not
> > > > > > > > > > > > all as I still feel that you are arguing from one view 
> > > > > > > > > > > > point and not
> > > > > > > > > > > > the entire picture when it comes to the view Iraqi's 
> > > > > > > > > > > > have of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > coallition force. While many view Iran as a biggist 
> > > > > > > > > > > > threat I also
> > > > > > > > > > > > believe many view the coalition as the biggest threat. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > And until there
> > > > > > > > > > > > are no foriegn troops on their streets (and yes that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > includes Iranian
> > > > > > > > > > > > troops) I don't think we will be able to fully asses 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the success or
> > > > > > > > > > > > failiure of the invasion. I do agree that making Iran 
> > > > > > > > > > > > stronger in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > region is not a good thing but don't believe that is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Obama's plan, a
> > > > > > > > > > > > man who refuses to discount the possibility of using 
> > > > > > > > > > > > military force
> > > > > > > > > > > > against Iran is hardly backing away and handing them 
> > > > > > > > > > > > control. He said
> > > > > > > > > > > > himself that the "regime is a threat to all of us" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > which shows he
> > > > > > > > > > > > takes the situation seriously.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Just to clarify a couple of things before I finish, I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > am not a US
> > > > > > > > > > > > citizen but I have an interest in US politics as I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > believe it affects
> > > > > > > > > > > > the entire world. My belief is that the US foriegn 
> > > > > > > > > > > > policy has been far
> > > > > > > > > > > > too aggressive for a number of years now and there has 
> > > > > > > > > > > > been a
> > > > > > > > > > > > willingness to use military force, or the threat of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > military force
> > > > > > > > > > > > earlier in situations where in the past diplomacy would 
> > > > > > > > > > > > still have
> > > > > > > > > > > > been the preffered option, the obvious example being 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the invasion of
> > > > > > > > > > > > Iraq. With this in mind I think a change is needed and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think Obama
> > > > > > > > > > > > is more suited to bring that change then McCain. I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't agree with
> > > > > > > > > > > > everything either of the candidates say but as with all 
> > > > > > > > > > > > politics in a
> > > > > > > > > > > > democracy I believe you have to choose the "lesser of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > two evils" and
> > > > > > > > > > > > in my opinion Obama is the preffered candidate.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > These are my views and I don't expect you to agree with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > them but as I
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't post on here much these days I thought I'd share 
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