No, it is more than my opinion. Any sane, rational person would see
that Hollywood asking for the psychiatrist's credentials is NOT an ad
hominem attack.

On Nov 16, 4:27�pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No wncs, you posted your OPINION, as a Moderator...
>
> No surprise there, I guess.
>
> On Nov 16, 1:25�pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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> > I am a moderator on this board, that's what I was doing posting as a
> > moderator. Tell me again what "powers" I used? At no time did I
> > threaten anyone with moderation or anything of the sort. No action was
> > taken and no threat of action was mentioned.
>
> > On Nov 16, 4:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Any time you assert youself as a Moderator, and not just a poster, you
> > > are in fact using the powers of Moderation.
>
> > > By your own assertion, had you not been "Moderating" you wouldn't have
> > > said anything, right?
>
> > > So you tell me, what were you doing posting here as a Moderator?
>
> > > On Nov 16, 1:20 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > What powers did I use? Did I threaten anyone or place them on
> > > > moderation? Nope. I clarified a false accusation so that it couldn't
> > > > be used against a poster in the future.
> > > > So, what "powers" are you talking about?
>
> > > > On Nov 16, 4:19 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > Yes.
>
> > > > > Neither of us have ever used these powers for what YOU just did.
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> > > > > I agree, that is very, very telling indeed.
>
> > > > > Thanks for pointing it out.
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> > > > > On Nov 16, 1:17 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > Only since the election, which is very, very telling.
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> > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:16 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Again, you and I have very different views about how the powers of
> > > > > > > Moderation should be used here.
>
> > > > > > > Capiche?
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 16, 1:13 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > *I* felt it necessary as a moderator to prevent such an 
> > > > > > > > accusation
> > > > > > > > from being used against Hollywood in the future.
> > > > > > > > Capiche?
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> > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:09 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > That as nothing to do with the Rules?
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> > > > > > > > > I do such things all the time, but NEVER as a Moderator.
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> > > > > > > > > I only assert myself here as a Moderator when the Rules have 
> > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > broken and that needs to be addressed.
>
> > > > > > > > > We obviously see the role of Moderator much differently.
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> > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 1:05 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > I would say that it is okay for you as a moderator to 
> > > > > > > > > > clarify if a
> > > > > > > > > > false accusation was made against a poster, whether you 
> > > > > > > > > > agree with
> > > > > > > > > > them or not.
> > > > > > > > > > The fact that you are the only one here who thinks that 
> > > > > > > > > > Hollywood made
> > > > > > > > > > an ad hominem attack speaks volumes.
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> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:59 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > And again, since you didn't address it the first time...
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> > > > > > > > > > > "So I guess it is ok, as a Moderator, for me to "side" 
> > > > > > > > > > > with those I
> > > > > > > > > > > support, even if I don't make an argument for myself, and 
> > > > > > > > > > > no Rules
> > > > > > > > > > > were broken?!?!?!?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Is that your position? "
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> > > > > > > > > > > I would like an answer to that question, please.
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:56 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > It was indeed false. Hollywood did not make an 
> > > > > > > > > > > > adhominem attack, no
> > > > > > > > > > > > matter how much you would like to assert that he did.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:54 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > It was not false, as I have SHOWN, and you can only 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > SAY...
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine that.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess it is ok, as a Moderator, for me to "side" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with those I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > support, even if I don't make an argument for myself, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and no Rules
> > > > > > > > > > > > > were broken?!?!?!?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that your position?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:46 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > A false accusation was made against a poster, and I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have seen such
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > accusations resurface for other posters in the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > past. My reason for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > joining this thread was to set the record straight 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > about Holly, so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that it doesn't come back to haunt him later.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:40 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is ok, with you, if I insert myself, as a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moderator, whenever I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe someone "may" be taken out of context, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and assert my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Moderation" to help one side of a discussion 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > against another?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is ok with you?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:37 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've already answered that.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:33 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then why insert yourself as a Moderator?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:23 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please show where I stated that rules were 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll wait here.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the only one who seems to be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asserting that any Rules were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone wonder why?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not me.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That way, you can make your comments 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without having to defend them in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the context of the discussion.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:02 pm, wncs <[EMAIL 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I stepped in as a moderator to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make an observation. At no time
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > did I assert moderation or threaten 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone with any action.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 2:59 pm, wncs <[EMAIL 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I stepped in because an accusation 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was made against a poster that was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blatantly untrue. I have seen before 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how these things get out of hand.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 2:55 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 11:51 am, wncs <[EMAIL 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fully understand the rules of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this forum, just making sure 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > else does too. :-)
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made no Moderation type 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > statements here myself, you are the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to do so...
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the question becomes: Just who 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does and who does not understand
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Rules?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would you feel the need to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > insert yourself as a Moderator here,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when no one was questioning 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything about the Rules?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You say you had no desire to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss the Topic, and you only 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chimed in
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