looking at the author's character or circumstances can sometimes provide insight into that person's ideas. In other words, ad hominem considerations can show motives and can sometimes provide explanation. However, these considerations do not demonstrate the truth or falsity of the ideas.
On Nov 16, 1:30 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, it is more than my opinion. Any sane, rational person would see > that Hollywood asking for the psychiatrist's credentials is NOT an ad > hominem attack. > > On Nov 16, 4:27 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > No wncs, you posted your OPINION, as a Moderator... > > > No surprise there, I guess. > > > On Nov 16, 1:25 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am a moderator on this board, that's what I was doing posting as a > > > moderator. Tell me again what "powers" I used? At no time did I > > > threaten anyone with moderation or anything of the sort. No action was > > > taken and no threat of action was mentioned. > > > > On Nov 16, 4:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Any time you assert youself as a Moderator, and not just a poster, you > > > > are in fact using the powers of Moderation. > > > > > By your own assertion, had you not been "Moderating" you wouldn't have > > > > said anything, right? > > > > > So you tell me, what were you doing posting here as a Moderator? > > > > > On Nov 16, 1:20 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > What powers did I use? Did I threaten anyone or place them on > > > > > moderation? Nope. I clarified a false accusation so that it couldn't > > > > > be used against a poster in the future. > > > > > So, what "powers" are you talking about? > > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:19 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > Neither of us have ever used these powers for what YOU just did. > > > > > > > I agree, that is very, very telling indeed. > > > > > > > Thanks for pointing it out. > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 1:17 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Only since the election, which is very, very telling. > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:16 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Again, you and I have very different views about how the powers > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Moderation should be used here. > > > > > > > > > Capiche? > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 1:13 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *I* felt it necessary as a moderator to prevent such an > > > > > > > > > accusation > > > > > > > > > from being used against Hollywood in the future. > > > > > > > > > Capiche? > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:09 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That as nothing to do with the Rules? > > > > > > > > > > > I do such things all the time, but NEVER as a Moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > I only assert myself here as a Moderator when the Rules > > > > > > > > > > have been > > > > > > > > > > broken and that needs to be addressed. > > > > > > > > > > > We obviously see the role of Moderator much differently. > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 1:05 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say that it is okay for you as a moderator to > > > > > > > > > > > clarify if a > > > > > > > > > > > false accusation was made against a poster, whether you > > > > > > > > > > > agree with > > > > > > > > > > > them or not. > > > > > > > > > > > The fact that you are the only one here who thinks that > > > > > > > > > > > Hollywood made > > > > > > > > > > > an ad hominem attack speaks volumes. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:59 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > And again, since you didn't address it the first time... > > > > > > > > > > > > > "So I guess it is ok, as a Moderator, for me to "side" > > > > > > > > > > > > with those I > > > > > > > > > > > > support, even if I don't make an argument for myself, > > > > > > > > > > > > and no Rules > > > > > > > > > > > > were broken?!?!?!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that your position? " > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like an answer to that question, please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:56 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was indeed false. Hollywood did not make an > > > > > > > > > > > > > adhominem attack, no > > > > > > > > > > > > > matter how much you would like to assert that he did. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:54 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was not false, as I have SHOWN, and you can only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SAY... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess it is ok, as a Moderator, for me to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "side" with those I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > support, even if I don't make an argument for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > myself, and no Rules > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were broken?!?!?!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that your position? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:46 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A false accusation was made against a poster, and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen such > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accusations resurface for other posters in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > past. My reason for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > joining this thread was to set the record > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > straight about Holly, so > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that it doesn't come back to haunt him later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:40 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is ok, with you, if I insert myself, as a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moderator, whenever I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe someone "may" be taken out of context, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and assert my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Moderation" to help one side of a discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > against another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is ok with you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:37 pm, wncs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've already answered that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:33 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then why insert yourself as a Moderator? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:23 pm, wncs <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please show where I stated that rules > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were broken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll wait here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 3:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are the only one who seems to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asserting that any Rules were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone wonder why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That way, you can make your comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without having to defend them in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the context of the discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:02 pm, wncs <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I stepped in as a moderator to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make an observation. At no time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > did I assert moderation or threaten > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone with any action. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 2:59 pm, wncs <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I stepped in because an accusation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was made against a poster that was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blatantly untrue. I have seen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > before how these things get out of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 2:55 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 11:51 am, wncs <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fully understand the rules of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this forum, just making sure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everyone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > else does too. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made no Moderation type > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > statements here myself, you are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to do so... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the question becomes: Just who > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does and who does not understand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Rules? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would you feel the need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > insert yourself as a Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when no one was questioning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything about the Rules? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You say you had no desire to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discuss the Topic, and you only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chimed in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as a Moderator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to know why?- Hide > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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