I was there off and on from 81 through 84. When a US Government employee has command of troops and is enforcing US Government policy in that zone and the operation is completely funded from the US government it IS a US operation. There were perjury convictions based on this and pardons issued...
Do you think the pardons for Pentagon officials were issued because there was no US involvement... Ronnie was a bloodthirsty asshole that killed more Americans than Bush 2. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Let's assume for a moment, that everything you just wrote is correct, and > although I don't doubt what you personally witnessed, I still question the > premise that the CIA was conducting paramilitary operations in Nicaragua, to > the extent that they were openly engaging in direct combat. > > When did this paramilitary group of CIA agents engage combat troops in > Nicaragua? > > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Keith as much as you or I would like to deny, deny, deny... the CIA >> was used as a para military wing of the US government for years. >> >> Felix Rodriguez >> >> Rodriguez met with Donald Gregg, who by then was Bush's National >> Security advisor. The Walsh Report (Chapter 29) states: "Gregg >> introduced Rodriguez to Vice President Bush in January 1985, and >> Rodriguez met with the Vice President again in Washington, D.C., in >> May 1986. He also met Vice President Bush briefly in Miami on May 20, >> 1986."[7] >> >> Rodriguez also met and spoke repeatedly with Bush's advisor Gregg and >> his deputy (Col. Samuel J. Watson III). As one indicator of this >> connection, a single chapter in the Walsh Report titled "Donald P. >> Gregg" (Chapter 29) contains 329 references to Rodriguez.[7] >> >> On 5 October 1986, the C-123 carrying Eugene Hasenfus was shot down >> over Nicaragua, killing two American pilots, William H. Cooper and >> Wallace B. Sawyer, Jr., and one Latin crew member. "Rodriguez >> unsuccessfully attempted to call Gregg to inform him of the missing >> plane. He reached Watson, who in turn notified the White House >> Situation Room. The following day, Rodriguez called Watson again and >> told him that the airplane was one of North's."[7] Hasenfus told >> reporters that he worked for "Max Gomez" (an alias for Felix >> Rodriguez) and "Ramon Medina" (an alias for Luis Posada Carriles) of >> the CIA. On 10 October 1986, Clair George, head of CIA clandestine >> operations, testified before Congress that he did not know of any >> direct connection between Hasenfus and Administration officials. In >> Fall of 1992, George was convicted on two charges of false statements >> and perjury before Congress; he was pardoned Christmas Eve that year >> by then-President Bush.[10][11] >> >> and as I said... I MET him in the field in Nicaragua. he was directing >> troops and airdrops from c-130's >> >> But they were no more "US" than Air America was in SE Asia. >> >> If it looks like a fish, swims like a fish and stinks like a dead fish >> it is US paramilitary. >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Mark <>uttered the following rhetoric: >> > These "brave" Americans were wearing what ?? shorts and tee-shirts or >> > Military uniforms ? >> > >> > >> > >> > ============= >> > >> > They were asleep in their bunks, when these murdering Islamic thugs >> > decided >> > to utilize homicidal murderers to drive truck laden bombs into the >> > French compound, where Americans were sleeping, being assigned on a UN >> > Peace Keeping mission. I assume that these proud Americans were >> > probably >> > wearing their skivvies Mark!! >> > >> > The definition of the rules of (military) engagement is as follows: >> > >> > >> > "A directive issued by competent military authority that delineates the >> > limitations and circumstances under which forces will initiate and >> > prosecute >> > combat engagement with other forces encountered." >> > >> > Please show me where, in Nicaragua, or Lebanon, or Columbia, we engaged, >> > with other combat forces. Dates, times, (pictures if ya got em!) >> > >> > The fact is, this is Anti-American spin, and there is no truth nor basis >> > to >> > it. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Were they lodged in the Embassy as staff and under the direct command >> >> of the ambassador or part of the Mediterranean command ? >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Keith In Tampa >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Our "military engagement" in Grenada lasted what? A day? Six >> >> > hours? >> >> > A >> >> > smashing success. >> >> > >> >> > There was no military engagement by the United States in Nicaragua. >> >> > >> >> > There was no military engagement in Lebanon. There were Islamic >> >> > homicidal >> >> > murderers who murdered 241 brave Americans and a handful of French >> >> > who >> >> > were >> >> > there on behalf of the United Nations. >> >> > >> >> > There has been no active military engagement in Columbia by the >> >> > United >> >> > States. >> >> > >> >> > Far left, radical extremists who hate America, I can understand, but >> >> > a >> >> > guy >> >> > with the moniker of SgtUSMC and an e-mail address calling himself >> >> > "DevilDawg"?? >> >> > >> >> > Come on!! Don't fall for that far left extremist wacko left >> >> > Moonbattery!! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM, SgtUSMC <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe Columbia, too. I can't remember exactly when we became >> >> >> involved >> >> >> militarily but, we still are. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mark M. Kahle, , >> >> www.filacoffee.com >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark M. Kahle, , >> www.filacoffee.com >> >> > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
