Keith: > Unlike you Fred, I, and most conservatives have a big problem with the > legislation, to include the referenced Eavesdropping bill,
If I was unclear, let me edify. I have a big problem with the Patriot Act. I don't like it at all. I thought I mentioned that. What I was writing was that Bush got caught listening in on domestic calls from/ to persons NOT of interests (a few hundred million of them), without legal warrants and outside the parameters of the PA. That was illegal. Not that the faithful would ever admit Bush / Cheney did one single thing wrong.... On Jun 29, 8:47 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote: > Once again, revisionist history by far left extremists. > > Bush was never caught "doing it" without legislation or Presidential Order, > both being "legal". > > Unlike you Fred, I, and most conservatives have a big problem with the > legislation, to include the referenced Eavesdropping bill, (I am forgetting > its actual title right now) as well as several provisions that are contained > within the Patriot Act. This presidential decree, later passed by first a > Republican controlled Congress (with a time stipulation of 5 years) and then > a Democrat controlled Congress (without a time stipulation) was endorsed by > a President who demanded that Americans give up certain unalienable rights > in the name of national security, yet President Bush refused to secure our > borders, in the name of national security. > > It is far worse now. We have a President who openly voted for the > eavesdropping legislation, and openly advocates open borders as well as > granting amnesty to the criminals who are within our borders who came here > illegally. > > These provisos of the Patriot Act that I mention, as well as the > Eavesdropping legislation, are unconstitutional on their face. No Court, to > date, has ruled on the constitutionality of the provisions that I am > referencing. It is only a matter of time.... > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Frederick The Moderate < > > > > frederickshel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Again, I don't have a problem with legally passed legislation. I don't > > like or approve of many of our laws. But when Bush was caught doing > > it, it wasn't legal. > > > On Jun 29, 5:42 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > You mean the Democrat Congress' Electronic Eavesdroppong Bill, that was > > > passed in 2007? The one that our current President supported and voted > > > for?? > > > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Frederick The Moderate < > > > > frederickshel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > So what do all those "Constitutionalists" Republicans and > > > > Conservatives think about his criminal acts in this regard? > > > > Or is the Constitution only important until it interferes with the GOP > > > > agenda?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
