ALL of yall are SO STUPID. THE country is run by the House of Representatives....NO NOT the Senate. It is 'WE the People' ....NOT even the damn president 'runs' the country....and party names are just that....NAMES, or if you: PEOPLE.
sILVER bELLE > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:01:43 -0700 > Subject: Re: WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! DON'T LISTEN TO THE LIES BY THE REPUBLICANS!!! > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > Hollywood, > > The mission of the ER is to provide triage for emergency health > situations. It is not ongoing care. If your condition is such that you > should be admitted to the hospital, then you will be admitted. If not, > you are sent home. It works this way whether you have health insurance > or not. A hospital can not send you home if you’re deemed to have a > life threatening condition. A hospital must tend to you when you come > in, regardless of whether you have insurance or not, until you are > medically stable. > > So let’s take a look at Luis’s statements; > > - If your child is screaming in agony the ER *must* examine the child > and determine the cause of the pain. If it’s not life threatening and > the proper treatment is Tylenol and rest, then that’s what your child > will get and you go home. If it’s a more serious condition, your child > will be treated until s/he is medically stable. They can not send him > home until then. > > - If you’re vomiting your brains out then the ER *must* determine why. > If it was food poisoning then there is little they can do except let > it run its course. If necessary they will pump your stomach, but only > in a case where you have ingested poison and its life threatening. > They will not send you home if you are still actively vomiting. > > - If your child has a high fever the ER *must* determine what is > causing this. If they can determine the cause they will treat it, > provide you with instructions on how to provide continued care, and > send you home. If they can’t determine the cause, or if the cause is > very serious/life threatening, your child will be admitted. > > - If you are in a car accident and need to be admitted to a hospital, > you get admitted. If you are medically stable you most likely do not > need the care of a trauma center. Hospitals that are not trauma > centers are still very capable of caring for someone who is medically > stable. You will not be transferred out of a trauma center when you > still require the services of a trauma center. > > So exactly which one of Luis’s statements do you consider to be > accurate AND relevant? For the most part I consider his post to be > incredibly misleading and disingenuous. > > > On Aug 20, 5:42 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > Travis,, > > > > Try to calm down and focus. Which of Luis's statements are you > > claiming are lies? > > > > On Aug 20, 4:21 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You want us to listen to the constant stream of unending lies from the > > > democrats instead? > > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:15 PM, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Wrong. I worked in an ER/Trauma Center that was in one of the most > > > > Hispanic areas of Southern California. EVERYONE that presents > > > > themselves to an ER gets "triaged" by a nurse and a doctor. That > > > > means vital signs and a quick exam. If you are > > > > deemed to have a non life threatening emergency (which constitute > > > > around 94% of all ER cases) you can be sent away LEGALLY to a free > > > > clinic or to a private doctor if you have no form of payment. Being > > > > "seen" is not the same as being "seen and treated". > > > > > > On Aug 20, 12:29 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Your list is an obvious lie. YOU are obviously a > > > > > liar because today's laws do not allow for denial of health care > > > > > especially if you are an " illegal alien immigrant " in an emergency > > > > > room situation though you may be denied payment for abusing the system > > > > > the hospitals have to treat you and fight for payment later. The > > > > > government today covers "emergency room " costs for { illegal alien > > > > > immigrants } but not for U.S. citizens . Obama the biggest of all > > > > > liars said today in his interview with a radio host that the bill does > > > > > not cover " illegal alien immigrants " but it will cover emergency > > > > > visits. So nothing has changed they will simply deluge our E-rooms and > > > > > the bill will not allow hospitals to verify eligibility. So who are > > > > > the liar's ? You and B.O. -------- LUIZ ! ! ! > > > > > > ************************************************************************************************************************* > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2:37 pm, CaliforniaLuis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > From working in the ER for 20 years, I have seen just how > > > > > > restrictive > > > > > > and penny-pinching corporate healthcare is... > > > > > > > > Your child has a horrible earache at 2 AM? The child is screaming > > > > > > in > > > > > > agony so you drive to the local ER. The ER staff calls your > > > > > > insurance > > > > > > company/HMO for authorization only to be denied because it is not a > > > > > > "life-threatening emergency". What do they instruct the ER to tell > > > > > > the parents? Give the child some Tylenol and go to the walk-in > > > > > > clinic > > > > > > at 8:00 AM. > > > > > > > > Vomiting your brains out in the middle of the night because of food > > > > > > poisoning? Go to the ER because you can't stop vomiting...DENIED! > > > > > > Go > > > > > > to your primary physician when his office opens. > > > > > > > > Your child has a high fever. You can't seem to bring it down. > > > > > > Unless > > > > > > the fever is over 101 when you arrive at the ER, you will be DENIED! > > > > > > Go to your pediatrician's office when it opens in the morning. > > > > > > > > Get into a car accident and you need to be admitted to the hospital? > > > > > > You are 100 miles from your insurance/HMO's contracted > > > > > > hospital...DENIED. Unless you are critical and unstable, you are > > > > > > put > > > > > > into an ambulance and transferred to your contracted hospital. Most > > > > > > of the time, your contracted hospital is not a Trauma Center so you > > > > > > will get inexperienced and substandard care. > > > > > > > > Gee, in any of these scenarios, if the patient would of had > > > > > > government > > > > > > insurance (Medi-Care or Medicaid), they would have been APPROVED. > > > > > > In > > > > > > fact, the ER would not even be required to call first for > > > > > > authorization. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Don't listen to people like Kama, OhioMark, Lew, LadyBug, and Ms. > > > > > > Con...they couldn't be more WRONG. They have no real world > > > > > > experience. They are only sounding boards of the pundits. Nearly > > > > > > all nurses and doctors support the "public option" (as does the > > > > > > American Medical Association). We have a perfect opportunity to > > > > > > reform healthcare and I have a feeling we are going to give in to > > > > > > the > > > > > > Republicans and BLOW IT!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
