Er, http://jsfiddle.net/RZtLA/5/


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Scott Miles <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry for butting in, but why not do this the more obvious way?
>
> http://jsfiddle.net/warpech/RZtLA/
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Marcin Warpechowski 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Rafael,
>> thanks for describing the motives behind this change and your work on
>> improving the performance and the API.
>>
>> Actually, I have a use case for point 3) - a need to programatically
>> change Node binding value.
>>
>> In my app, I need to have buttons that change the value of a model
>> property. With the exposed `bindings_` property, it is quite easy to
>> achieve that. See the fiddle: http://jsfiddle.net/warpech/RZtLA/ . The
>> HTML is not the cleanest, but the best we came up with.
>>
>> Your recent changes to move `bindings_` behind a flag made me realise
>> that using it is a poor way to achieve what I need. Yet, I haven't found a
>> better solution. Would you propose more reliable solution to change bound
>> values with a button?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:10:30 AM UTC+1, Rafael Weinstein wrote:
>>
>>> Ok. These changes are now on trunk (master) of NodeBind.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Rafael Weinstein <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've implemented (2) & (3) and created a new branch which contains the
>>>> changes:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/Polymer/NodeBind/tree/noUnbind
>>>>
>>>> (here's the CL: https://codereview.appspot.com/76140044/).
>>>>
>>>> This change improved the binding benchmark (at 100% density with O.o
>>>> enabled, but no compound bindings or expressions) by about 35%:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/Polymer/TemplateBinding/blob/master/
>>>> benchmark/index.html
>>>>
>>>> and the codereview-diff.html benchmark(with O.o enabled)  by about 15%:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/Polymer/TemplateBinding/blob/master/
>>>> benchmark/codereview-diff.html
>>>>
>>>> I leave it to Scott & Steve to let me know when/if Polymer-dev would
>>>> like to integrate this change (by not using unbind/unbindAll anymore).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Rafael Weinstein <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to propose two repo/design changes:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Merge the NodeBind Repo into TemplateBinding.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will basically mean just moving the source & tests from NodeBind
>>>>> into TemplateBinding. This doesn't really change the design of the system
>>>>> (at least yet), but it does acknowledge that these two things really go
>>>>> together. It's one less repo to deal with and it means that we can
>>>>> eventually write a single pseudo-spec for the whole system and have it be
>>>>> in one place.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Remove Node.prototype.unbind, Node.prototype.unbindAll.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's somewhat less clear to me that nodes should ever be unbind-able
>>>>> (rebind-able, or imperatively bind-able beyond template instancing, for
>>>>> that matter). The only use-case we've encountered for doing this is
>>>>> cleaning up (shutting down observation). However, if WeakRefs become
>>>>> available in ES or if TemplateBinding/NodeBind get standardized (and
>>>>> therefore make weak references available from c++), cleaning up 
>>>>> observation
>>>>> can be a concern of the node itself, and not require external interaction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus, the current design where Node.prototype.bind() is returning a
>>>>> "close-able" object is really only internal API for the prollyfill.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main motivation for doing this is perf. Unbinding and setting up
>>>>> the .bindings object during construction are significant work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that Polymer is currently using unbind and unbindAll(), but my
>>>>> proposal is for polymer to do what TemplateBinding does, which is to keep
>>>>> an array of closeable objects for each fragment that will eventually need
>>>>> to be cleaned up, rather than traverse a fragment and unbind all nodes.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) Make Node.prototype.bindings run-time enable-able.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, this is significant work for which I know of only one use case
>>>>> (which is tooling -- e.g. the sandbox app).
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose that we allow the bindings of a Node to be reflectable only
>>>>> if some well known switch is enabled. This is analogous to devtools using
>>>>> internal APIs to enable reflection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Concerns?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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