You can look at the content of an import using the dev tools
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:07 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey all, great discussion! I totally agree with Patrick's Point #2 > I learnt more from viewing source of how a big website implements cool > effects than reading tutorials on the internet. Is it possible that the > HTML imports being used can be viewed as well? > > > > On Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:24:03 PM UTC+5:30, Rob Dodson wrote: > >> re: point no. 2 >> >> This is already the case today. Here's a screenshot of the markup >> generated by >> gmail<http://html5-demos.appspot.com/static/cds2013/index.html#19>. >> That code is the byproduct of some framework just spitting out DOM as a >> substrate. So they're already sort of obfuscating but hopefully you >> wouldn't need to spew out all of that DOM if whatever they were building >> was just encapsulated in Shadow DOM and wrapped in a Custom Element. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:15 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> My opinion on Web Components has two sides. >>> >>> 1. HTML is about being accessible to *everyone* and as a self-taught >>> programmer I believe the div soup is inaccessible to people who are >>> interested in how a website works (Don't tell me you haven't been there >>> before. I've learned so many things from Cmd+Opt+U) or even new coworkers >>> who have to an encyclopedia and an expert to understand how a site is laid >>> out before he can do anything, just look at this page. d >>> *iv>div>div...forever...* >>> >>> 2. I'm worried devs will make tags that totally obfuscate their code for >>> performance gains or to make it unreadable to outsiders (opposite of an >>> open web see #1 above). Imagine if Google was filled with tags along the >>> lines of <g-weibvlqbeqbiubqkjdbiuqbek> that only Google can understand. >>> This has serious ramifications beyond my programmer-friendly point in terms >>> of accessibility, SEO , etc. Its important to remember that HTML should be >>> readable and comprhenible without a user-agent stylesheet hiding the tags >>> and stuff. >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:57:41 AM UTC-5, Rob Dodson wrote: >>>> >>>> I think the most frequent gripe I hear about Web Components is that >>>> they look like XML and that totally freaks people out. I can definitely >>>> imagine my own horror if I were to open up a client project and top to >>>> bottom was all custom elements that I knew nothing about. >>>> >>>> My own opinion is that they're almost like jQuery plugins. I don't see >>>> much difference in: >>>> >>>> <div class="fancy-dropdown"></div> >>>> $('.fancy-dropdown').dropdown(); >>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> <fancy-dropdown></fancy-dropdown> >>>> >>>> and just like jQuery plugins, they're great if used in moderation but >>>> *horrible* if they constitute the bulk of your site. I realize that's >>>> not a very accurate analogy but I think it gets at my main point which is >>>> "If it does something mysterious then don't overuse it." >>>> >>>> I figure in time some custom elements might become so commonplace that >>>> they achieve the same level of mindshare as seeing $ or .btn does today. >>>> Bootstrap is a good example. If I opened a document and saw <twbs-btn> then >>>> I could say "Oh! I know how Bootstrap buttons work. OK, moving on...". So >>>> my hope is that the good stuff will rise to the top and the best practice >>>> will be "liberally use the good stuff, but go easy on the esoteric or >>>> lesser known elements." >>>> >>>> Does that make sense? 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