Thanks for sharing. This can indeed be very useful for the adaption of web
components.


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Jan Paul Posma <[email protected]> wrote:

> In order to use web components in production, we have created a set of
> polyfills that is mostly a subset of Polymer's polyfills:
> https://github.com/Versal/component-runtime We intend to keep it as up to
> date with the moving standards as possible, while maintaining compatibility
> with more browsers and other libraries. For example, we haven't yet
> included the ShadowDOM polyfill, as it is still too buggy for us.
>
> I hope this can be useful to some of you.
>
>
> On Tuesday, 1 July 2014 06:37:24 UTC-7, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> @Marco I am sure some developers at Microsoft also said the same about
>> staying compatible with older versions of Office, the same developers from
>> Playstation about supporting PS3 games in PS4... "Let's make our life
>> easier! Who cares about supporting legacy stuff!". Things that users hate
>> and only suffer because they don't have much say about it.
>>
>> Its a fundamental question as we use digital for more and more things in
>> our lives : do we want our digital products to only have a 3 to 5 year-life
>> span? Imagine tomorrow if a new version of JPEG came and none of your
>> previous photos could be read? Sorry Facebook doesn't support this old
>> thing called JPEG please upload everything again in JPEG2000 :)
>>
>> Not everyone lives in a 'rich' country and has access to computers that
>> would support the latest 2 versions of major browsers.* XP doesn't
>> support IE 10* and *XP is still* *25.27% of OS marketshare worldwide*!
>> It's going to take 3 years at least for that to start fading to an
>> insignificant amount.
>>
>> We work with professional and amateur football clubs: a lot of them are
>> associations. They don't do it for the money. A lot of these associations
>> got computers donated to them from companies; Computers that are 4 or 5
>> years old but still working fine. And guess what they run typically: XP. I
>> am happy when at least they don't have IE6!
>>
>> Twitter was knows better: it recently is started supporting Gif! Yes Gif
>> this old and crappy format! Talk about old stuff! But for performance
>> purpose Twitter converts seemlessly for users Gifs into H264 videos. That's
>> a much better user-friendly approach.
>>
>> I think it's a bad long term calculation. You should also have some *respect
>> for your users*. Not everyone is a geek who cares or thinks about
>> updating his browser and what not. But if anything, when a user goes to a
>> website if it uses new standards it should not just break the website and
>> expect the user to figure out that the reason the wbeiste is broken is
>> because his browser doesn't support "web components" or what not. It should
>> tell him "Please update your browser to get the full experience" or "Sorry
>> you need to update you browser to visit this website" and offer links to
>> all browser vendors so it's one click away from being a problem solved.
>> (You'd be surprised how many people will download by mistake a version of a
>> browser filled with useless toolbars, spamware and what not from a third
>> party download website.)
>>
>> Here is a the reality check of what people know about Browsers:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ
>>
>> I think standards have more chance evolving at a fast pace when they also
>> address the previous standards instead of just ignoring the past. It might
>> be fine to get a project going but if Polymer wants to become used for
>> mainstream websites within 3 years it will have to address older browser
>> compatibility gracefully -- in my humble opinion.
>>
>

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